I have no idea how Hippo plays but D1 looks like Hippo and Hazard w/w over Hippo and Frost w/w
Good good, Donât let these pebbles hit the water.
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ok
@Frostwolf103 @beancat @Hazardwaste
may i ask all three of you for your most recent scum games, please?
and if u wanna link more than 1 - feel free to
Good morning
Yall really gotta hammer when im gone huh
Iâm what i claimed, with one change
Iâm a spiteful scapegoat, instead of just merely being excluded from the tie I get to choose who dies
Thought not claiming that would increase the chances of there being a tie from 0% to 1% 
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uuuh the one i played with baker
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do i case the 300 poster first or the 500 poster first
decision of the century
spiteful sounds mafia
Keep in mind, IceT claimed first before Beancat have to say, I like this one. It doesnât necessary lead to believe thatâs one of the reasons why IceT is left alone. But you donât say hammerâer role claim is okay and is traditionally an mafia role.
I donât get why that would be town thing, it doesnât say Bean is townreading Hippo for it.
Why does Beancat donât mind this from Zenon?
She forgot that IceT claimed and say yep cool.
Ah she does think it is mafia ability.
Is that one of softclaims?
âPoor choice of wordsâ
Zenon (3): Achromatic, tutuu, Apocryphal
beancat (2): Kiiruma, Zenon
IcetFeelsPain (2): Hippopablompoyeetus, baker
Hippopablompoyeetus (1): Hazardwaste
Kiiruma (1): Kabazame
Zennon (1): IfGodCouldDie
Achromatic (1): beancat
Not Voting (2): Frostwolf103, IcetFeelsPain
This is also during the time that Achro made train express to Zenon
Just sheep.
ThatâŚdoesnât help. Notice how Bean first called first two after Achro sheep and refuse to comment on the remaining people.
One of the first to distrust Kiiruma, interesting.
Okay this is actually one of the towny posts and thatâs Bean post number #42 out of couple of thousands and half.
Thatâs not wrong in first glance.
First of all, before Hippo voted Hazard. There are four votes in Apoâs wagon at that time:
Himself, IGCD, Achro and Baker.
I am thinking that was RVS at the time, Apo becomes defensibly and voted Hippo not only that, but also naming Apo incorrectly.
Shading Hippo and Apo as partners, I think I see?
well, no itâs not like that initially.
Beanâs response to vote Apo because unwilling to vote Hippo over IGCD. Despite Apo being vocal about Hippo D1.
Forgot again and unnecessary reminder.
âŚwhat? That goes against Beancatâs consistency she made earlier and now also includes Hippo to be put as one of the wolf with Apo?
But no, forget about Hippo. itâs Tutuu. Or doesnât want to case Hippo anymore because how bad the situation looks.
I think that was indeed done in the morning for you, however you havenât catch on why the hammer did end up quickly.
Another voting manipulative role, not surprised to be honest.
@tutuu On second glance, Bean does stink yeah.
You want me to case Hazard too?
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So yeah thatâs my confirmation I put Beancat > Hazardwaste first
yes please!
Before post #615 I donât see anything remarkable from Hazard, at that point Hazard hasnât responded to Zenonâs accusation of Hazard being TMI. About quote in particular is not good or evil behind that, I will see if Hazard change his opinion throughout the game.
Not a lot of posts, but heâs not wrong I was backing him up at that time because vibing with old guard we intent to solve together. But me and Hippo didnât do that and we kinda left each other alone. Up until Day 3.
Reference to April Showerâs Blizer claim of medium who also have PGO in his role, not to mention mafia. What it looks like that heâs willing to accept the claim with dead interaction.
Mhm.
I donât know what Achro sees Zenon at that time, however Achro is agreeing with Zenon that this wolf meta from Kiiruma is meta af. I am not taking a side on whoâs right. I think thatâs a difference between Achro, Zenon and Hazard. However It is Zenon who immediately calls TMI.
From looks of things, like what Hazard has claimed before when heâs 50% VT all the time with his double vote claim later on, it doesnât look like Zenon is wanting to bus Hazard because Hazard has weak role and I thought Zenon doesnât like âpowerful town roleâ claims, arguably that would fit with Hippoâs role that flipped by D3, but the double vote is real. It is weak.
Iâd say thatâs a good response against Achro, heâs not showing to be afraid and did respond what Achro need to know to have more depth behind his reasoning to have Kii as town.
Moving on.
Hazard donât know Tutuuâs meta, however trying to get understand what makes a difference. Iâd keep eye open what Hazard is thinking of Tutuu since he seem to intend to solve tutuu early on.
He do believe baker is âemotionally happyâ not to be mafia, if I read this right?
Hazard has opposite view on IceTâs claim not like bean.
Fucking fair, mate. Fucking fair. However this is important post later on.
Not more than three posts later, this vote feels natural that made him prompt to take a side.
Baker does make a point here, but all right moving on.
While Zenon also replied that she doesnât like Hippo post in middle of his ISO at that time, I will keep this mind what develops.
To the following events, I can see Hazard did to explain his thoughts to Kabazame, itâs clear and town indicative, that Hippo only seem to townread me and nothing else formed.
Yeah, it does sound strange that Zenon seem want to shut up hazard but I recall moving the vote on Hippo with this WiFoM and antispew, fortunately weâre smart people and figure out soon that Hippo is evil, however it doesnât look like w/w theatre to me.
Hmm, sharp observation Iâd say. This doesnât feel like TMI to me to spoon feed Achro about Zenon. Itâs input has been taking in consideration that may have very well led to Zenonâs sudden wagon by EoD1.
Thatâs pretty present on the scene before this and during Hippo/Tutuu D3
I donât need to second-guess what this means. If he was wolf and Kiiruma was dead N2, that would have made Hazard suspicious around this part. But heâs already aware that Kiiruma is softing around investigative claim. Should he be wolf then I applaud for keeping his tracks covered. But it is now shown right now I am leaning him town from this post as well.
Weâre at post #64 (or 63 idk), can you believe that @Tutuu?
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ISO-wise post #64
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itâs not a full case, but you knowâŚ
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Ammo.
This is his reply to Bakerâs claim
While that is true, this is not necessary a good post. I see thatâs keeping from Baker killed until usefulness is gone. The problem I can see from this thought I am having, is that Baker is also on Zenonâs wagon and especially after IGCD and Apo died, safe kill on Baker and Hazard is pretty much finding Hippo suspicious even before Day 1 is over.
???
I am confused why Hippo said that, not to mentionâŚfold like this and say IceT is suspicious
I donât blame Hazard on that one, it is indeed strange for someone to townread somebody and still end up voting which has incontinency problem. i would agree myself on that as well.
But moral of the story: Donât make weird antispew posts as town, kids. Donât do it.
(I continue this later)
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Yep
These quotesâŚhave changed the tone? No mention of Hippo
What happened to Hazard?
Its mostly not good responses to these quotes
And among others, but I judge those responses in my opinion as not good
Skill issue on reading, but Iâd say no. This strange change of atmosphere is putting a dent on town read case credibility for Hazard.
Its not well explained, but I give the benefit of doubt that Hazard reported sick since five days ago
Lets say, Hazard is aware that Zenon is antispewing to confuse town by both spewing both ways for Hazard.
Not agreeing that Zenon could play better as wolf, as much the play is embarrasing (love you too), the recent Wolf play says otherwise. So Iâd say Tutuuâs point is very valid because Zenon certainly played excellent wolf game on Jutting Watchtower.
Moving on. Itâs starting to stack up bad points for Hazard as well.
Whaaaat? No you canât be serious.
You kidding, it is quite a hill drop.
DeeperâŚ
Thats it?
Okay its going up but need steep hill without falling back down, excuse my terminology however I can see its getting better after D2
This makes sense on context. Because since Apo died, he once mentioned that wolf is between Apo and Tutuu because Hippo said so, but also worried that Kii might be scum after all.
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This better not be excuse for distancing, i swear on your fucking Australian lizard overlords
Okay fine, it doesnât change but fine. Moving on.
Hazard getting defensively about Hippo, but doesnât think Bean is partnered with Hippo on this post?
You are wrong about that yeah, especially Hippo and Kiiruma dead, hippo flipped red and so on.
WellâŚI think I conclude this case.
You can tell I am now in hazardâs shoes on what to choose now.
Hazard brings more town points than Bean, but close or worse in wolfiness as Bean.
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Well, my job here is done, for now.
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Morning. My two votes activated today cause of course they did