Umineko FM: Land of the Golden Witch - Thread 2 - Days 3-7

[Gorta]

@Memes

This post reeks of TMI

do you think Gaul is w/t with rue?

@GaulSoodman

Gorta it seems like he has a distrust of PoEs due to often being incorrectly PoEd

No, I’ve seen wolves be outside of PoE, make the PoE, and everyone sheeps it and wolves win because no one decided to look into things outside of the PoE

@GaulSoodman

yeah and im not wolfreading someone for level 0 “they didn’t vote someone I think is wolfy ergo they are wolf”

sorry

Rue is a decent player and should try to be informed when voting at the EoD, which is why I think Rue is a wolf who was trying to save Heisen

@Rue

[i read his posts]
[he was just completely null]

Ok, so why not talk about Heisen? Why did you just seem to ignore Heisenberg? Heisen was one of two people being voted on d1 and trying to solve the top wagons is of upmost important unless you could propose a better wagon, this is why I think you are wolfing

@GaulSoodman

if you think ruby is mafia then this is completely bonkers that you’d think this

I did nothing but shitpost on day 1, I unvoted my wolf partner in a way that nearly got me killed, then I nearly saved arctic by leading a wagon onto ruby who would be my wolf partner, I now decide that this is the time where I would start powerwolfing, when we’re massively losing presumably due to my actions

I’m actually starting to get genuinely pissed off about all the pOWERWILF1!!2!1!1!1! shit I’ve been hearing directed towards me because if you actually look at how I’ve been playing it’s bananas it’s coconuts

you are trying to control the narrative and shooting down any people wolf reading Rue

@GaulSoodman

my man this read has nothing to do with rue

you always display a hesitancy towards sheeping and PoEs when you’re a villager, while when you’re a wolf you often dunk on wolf partners and sheep people

rue has nothing to do with this, I’m pretty sure I was fighting about seth when I thought about this lol.

You should understand why I’m hesitant.

[GaulSoodman]

@Memes

anyone wanna guess the possible scenarios?

I love mechanics

I’d rather not because i feel like I can guess the roles of half the people who haven’t claimed

[Achromatic]

Yes, and over night 2 to me it felt like “wait, he’s town reading everyone on this though, wtf”

Like, I only have my own thoughts to bounce ideas ideas off of and I asked @katze if she had zack meta and she said not really so my default is ‘well that’s not great.’

So if you know him well and that’s Zack being Zack or whatever and that’s something that’s town indicative that’s cool with me, but I think it’s way more villagery to try to sort that vague feeling out if you have it instead of posting something that I feel like given who was on the wagon is wolf sided and then forget about it for most of the day.

[Achromatic]

Also I am MANUALLY REMEMBERING that earlier today he said I was villagery and then when I challenged him he flipped to pinging wolf.

So I don’t know what THAT indicates.

[nightingale]

achro do u think zack w

im dizzy af and have to focus on not crashing a shopping cart for the time being

i agree tho visors solving is plausible as villa
im just not super comfy with it because hes hardly actually pushing for…anything

[sufdaddy]

the gorta vote was kind of a meme, look at the post right before it

@Achromatic

he had almost 0 interaction with heisen or ruby’s slot, but that also wasn’t that surprising given what they did.

that seems ungenerous

i interacted with proph on like the one single post he made, and just wasn’t around at the same time as ruby almost ever

@sufdaddy

oh hi proph, congrats

I’m zack iso me and locktown me

i did interact with heisenberg a bit, not a ton but definitely not 0

@sufdaddy

@Heisenberg

I vibe with the audacity in min’s posts

@sufdaddy

ye heisenberg’s iso is rough, sorry bud

kinda think he is w/w with min for the post I fry’d earlier (this one), it was out of nowhere and didn’t really hold up imo. and min’s left me feeling meh for no specific reason, similar to what visor said

nightingale’s posts have left very little impact on me

out 4 the night

lolbye

@sufdaddy

why would a wolf claim it unprompted d1 before anyone was voting you?

@sufdaddy

eliza doesn’t seem like a similar player as zorvo at all, this seems like a non sequitur to me

@sufdaddy

fair enuf

@sufdaddy

weird post lol

some were replies to heisenberg, might have to click through to see since other thread

[Achromatic]

Sorry this is a lingo issue and wasn’t meant to be: I mean back and forth

[sufdaddy]

@Achromatic

Day 2 was largely me going ‘I have no idea how a villager says there is a bus on a wagon and then proceeds to town read everyone on the wagon’ and maybe the pivot to me today is a correction of that as I feel as if before I said that he was fine with me.

?

I said “a 9 vote d1 wagon on a wolf implies bussing; unsure who”. how is that unfathomable

[Memes]

@Gorta

do you think Gaul is w/t with rue?

Im not sure. What i noticed is that Gaul was actively shutting down any suspicions towards Rue.

[GaulSoodman]

@Gorta

@GaulSoodman

yeah and im not wolfreading someone for level 0 “they didn’t vote someone I think is wolfy ergo they are wolf”

sorry

Rue is a decent player and should try to be informed when voting at the EoD, which is why I think Rue is a wolf who was trying to save Heisen

why

she was literally the deciding vote any normal non ego tunneled/emotionless person would feel extremely indecisive

for gods sake I was reading EoD and not commenting and I was nearly tempted to switch my vote cause I was panicking

@Gorta

@Rue

[i read his posts]

[he was just completely null]

Ok, so why not talk about Heisen? Why did you just seem to ignore Heisenberg? Heisen was one of two people being voted on d1 and trying to solve the top wagons is of upmost important unless you could propose a better wagon, this is why I think you are wolfing

did you actually read her ISO

she commented on heisenberg and how she disagreed with the wagon multiple times IIRC.

@Gorta

@GaulSoodman

if you think ruby is mafia then this is completely bonkers that you’d think this

I did nothing but shitpost on day 1, I unvoted my wolf partner in a way that nearly got me killed, then I nearly saved arctic by leading a wagon onto ruby who would be my wolf partner, I now decide that this is the time where I would start powerwolfing, when we’re massively losing presumably due to my actions

I’m actually starting to get genuinely pissed off about all the pOWERWILF1!!2!1!1!1! shit I’ve been hearing directed towards me because if you actually look at how I’ve been playing it’s bananas it’s coconuts

you are trying to control the narrative and shooting down any people wolf reading Rue

yeah because i think rue is a villager

why is everyone who disagrees with you a wolf like come on this is getting kinda ridiculous

what I’m just supposed to go jump in a corner and just let you push my townreads for bad reasons? how about no.

@Gorta

@GaulSoodman

my man this read has nothing to do with rue

you always display a hesitancy towards sheeping and PoEs when you’re a villager, while when you’re a wolf you often dunk on wolf partners and sheep people

rue has nothing to do with this, I’m pretty sure I was fighting about seth when I thought about this lol.

You should understand why I’m hesitant.

sort of

but you’ve lost games before because you refused to trust people and relied on yourself (nearly everyone lylo you’ve been in)

mafia is a team game like it or not and you have to work as a team.

[sufdaddy]

click on it, there was back and forth with berg

he replied to me a few times too that i didnt bother to grab

[Achromatic]

I have this bias that I am working on that when people come after me I just kind of want to be ‘probably villager’ because I am so used to being ‘that guy’ in games and being unassailable. It’s a problem it cost me champs so I am trying to work on it but sufdaddy being like ‘sup achro’ on a day that sup achro is for sure not needed I think is v indicative.

But also I’d like more solving and to understand his ruby stance more.

[GaulSoodman]

can you send it to me pls

i can’t really tell you about the zack post except I disagree so I disagree lol

[sufdaddy]

@Achromatic

Sounds right, then doesn’t really think about it.

Nothing he has done this game has made me think he is a deep thinker as either alignment.

lmao

achro make a post without stroking himself as a superior intellect challenge, go

[Achromatic]

If those are all interactions fair enough but also that statement was meant to be NAI for you, I was commenting for my own reference that it wasn’t a lot but also that since heisen and ruby did very little that it was to be expected.

[GaulSoodman]

yeah because the reasons you’re pushing em aren’t really good

the only person who’s raised a valid point is Gorta about her defending heisenberg and voting katze but I personally don’t think that’s enough to damn her

[Memes]

Also i wrnt to check Hally’s ISO, and she suspected two people, Heisenberg and Katze, she actually aided SPF to chop Heisenberg.

So SPF not dying on night 1 was a dodge doc to kill the second most config town player from Heisenberg flip.

[Achromatic]

[nightingale]

should prob leave thread
i have a v bad habit of starting convos and not having the energy to continue them past 2 posts

[GaulSoodman]

@Achromatic

If those are all interactions fair enough but also that statement was meant to be NAI for you, I was commenting for my own reference that it wasn’t a lot but also that since heisen and ruby did very little that it was to be expected.

why bother mentioning it then