Umineko FM: Land of the Golden Witch - Game Over - Witches Win

Yeah

yeah, I donā€™t like zackā€™s slot

if you notice when Rue is on the wagon yesterday Outed, suf, and Rue all call me scum and attempt to vote Achro

all of that after zack attempts to call me town because others did

Can you link the posts?

I still believe that the trajectory of today prior to last night is indicative of myself being a villager. When I write this out, it seems more of a biased view, but I still believe in it. :slight_smile:

I also still believe that my interactions with the flipped wolves, bar maybe Geyde, are all different to how I would approach them as mafia.

  • While my read on Rue was, in hindsight, quite bad, there was still a moment in which I promised someone I would towncase her and then the next day phase she was essentially begging me to do it, to which I declined. If I were wolf teammates with her and interested in dragging her with me, I probably would have just prewritten something for her, or asked her to help me.
    • She also pretty blatantly tried to kill me over Geyde and Visor at EoD1, from my point of view. The only reason I was the counterwagon at EoD was because she kickstarted it and forced others to follow it. I donā€™t particularly understand the motivation she would have to counterwagon a third wolf partner in a situation where two are already being wagoned.

Seriously though, do people think that Rue is trying to CFD off of one wolf to another?

I mean, I guess it would net some sick #towncred, but Iā€™m pretty sure that this act alone has made me permanently stuck in the PoE, and Rue never capitalizes on it later.


  • On Day 1, there were multiple instances of me applying scrutiny to Visor, and asking others how they felt about it. This is not out of the range of distancing, although reading my own posts from here on out, I think most of them are pretty good. I actually might have remembered wrong how much I brought him up. Nonetheless, I think if you read our interactions on D1 surroundingā€¦ most of the flipped wolves now, actually, I think this image indicates that the wolves cared about swaying my opinion on Rue:

Also, wow. Saw this while looking for my Visor stuff andā€¦ I kind of hate myself for being right on this.


I saw Sabi link a post in which I, in the finale, was kind of pushing onto alexa (my wolf partner) with read decay being among the reasons. I think thatā€™s a concept that I employ in most of my games, realizing that sometimes I just simply have worse reasons to read a player as a specific alignment than I do for others, especially with the passage of time. It seems somewhat ridiculous to say that me having a push on a teammate in LyLo means that any push I make with similar reasons in any game afterwards is scum indicative of me. The foundations of how I (and most people?) wolf is still built upon how they village, at least to some extent.

I dunno. I still am not entirely sure what to do here, but I hope at least this clarifies some of what I talked about last night.

I hate the burden of bias, but I think my entire EoD1 has aged exceptionally well.

(Except the part where Iā€™m tilted at Zorvo, you can ignore that. Please do, actually.)

Whatever I rather vote Jack than katze because I donā€™t want the f3 to be achro Zack and me

Iā€™m kinda busy right now with my parents because last weekend with them so Iā€™m here sporadically

If you voted me out, and I flipped mafia, why would the F3 not contain Jackrito?

I guess the alternative question is, if you donā€™t believe my teammate is Jackrito, who would it possibly be?

I feel like I am relatively unaligned from everybody alive, right now, except him.

uh, I can try

Does this post existing make you feel better or worse about it? Iā€™ll probably laugh at it in the future, but for now it is just pain inducing.

Itā€™s a hypothetical world.

Jack being in f3 also terrifies me

(Iā€™m over this game)

it makes me feel pain which is hard to describe.

Plain reading it looks much more nuanced and considered than Zackā€™s take which is usually good, but when I consider the breadth of zackā€™s game and how he has solved and how many people thought ā€˜Zack is townā€™ after awhile I assume thatā€™s just Zack so.

the comparison between you two is different

It feels very ā€˜lol I am deep wolfing fuck youā€™ to say earlier you would wolf more than I did in the hood and then I review the hood andā€¦

but in most of zackā€™s posts about me it includes that Iā€™m town because others are reading me town until Rue is on the chopping block then it becomes ā€œhow is gorta town?ā€, which is the exact same thing Rue and I think outed says

One thing I will say is I am not going to just assume you are in your champs finale meta as wolf here though because I know the STRESS and just sheer terribleness of that environment. Sabi bringing up what is you at your most honed in, focused, and WIM doesnā€™t mean you are even capable of it here.

You are capable of it, and you do sometimes give off ā€œpleaseā€¦noā€¦I am too weakā€ palps vibes.

(I said the same thing)

(a lot of people doubted you were town even Jack)

(only Seth and Katze and by proxy achro tr you)