Umineko FM: Land of the Golden Witch - Thread 1 - Days 1 & 2

This is the first post I saw the moment I logged. The game starts at 8 PM for me so I went to sleep and I just woke up m8.

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I respect sleep. Have fun reading ;o

Orrr you give me a TLDR

this just seems blatantly w/w to me

that is, alongside zack trying to sweep seth’s shenanigans under the rug and then chainsaw onto rue, now this

I think distancing or not wanting to bring attention onto them, Maybe that is the same thing actually. The next thing I was going to do is a iso of her next, but I already know its going to be at least 70% about Zorvo open wolfing.

I instead offer a different bit of advice. pick someone to iso at random or whatever. and then post why they are town or wolf. No nulls, just do it. Except do this for 2-3 people. You don’t have to follow the hot topic of a thread or every person’s post to be useful in the long run, take it in bite sized chunks.

You can start with me if you like, it’s a fairly easy read.

Yeah get used to that, or just never sleep only chance to keep fully up to date, which in all honestly is not worth.

why are all the wolves outting themselves

i made this read on him last game when he did something stupid and attention-causing and he was mafia

Eh, I still maintain to both of you that you can be productive without needing a tl;dr. Like, sometimes it is actually useful early in games for some people to be a bit uninformed so they can wander around against thread consensus and maybe find something.

like katze stated they were worried about biasing me by being my assistant. With me that was partially the point (I chose them specifically to isolate them and pick them apart - which if katze is w they may have realized that was my intent I hear they are scary good) but if you’re actually just looking for a catchup then you probably shouldn’t get one as it will just be an echo of the truth.

Anyway Saul V for smacking around zorvo scumbuddies tbh

Yeah I tend to look too much at how the general should play, rather then the insanity of the gambit plays that some players think will work every time because it worked once. Based off how people describe Zorvo he is very much in that area so I should not take things for granted.

now i want to call you one of them for this post

Vote Count


Heisenberg (7): eliza, spf, Hally, BradLand, nightingale, Rue, Jackrito
Memes (3): Sadbi, Zorvo, Phraze
katze (3): min, SaulGoodman, sufdaddy
GaulSoodman (1): Heisenberg
Rue (1): GaulSoodman
min (1): Outedwolf
spf (1): Memes
Prophylaxis (1): katze
Gyrlander (1): Achromatic

Not Voting (6): eevee, Gorta, guavagudetama, Gyrlander, HowardHamlin, Prophylaxis

How does it feel to want?

I am feeling mentally drained and couldn’t get sleep due to upstairs neighbors dogs running loose all night. Just notify me if you want me to look at something, I’ll be around later.

what happened to the seth wagon

this seems pretty contradictory to

and is completely contradictory to your mindset this game as 90% of your posts have been talking about seth


on top of that most of heisenberg’s posts defending seth felt like some sort of agenda regardless of seth’s alignment to shut down scumreads on him (if he’s v i think keeping him alive longer is also probably useful for wolves) - like he asked seth why he did what he did to gauge the motivation and didn’t get an answer, then he started asking “but why would he do this as wolf” and his entire progression with this read feels muddy and confused yet there’s still the underlying soft defence and it’s just blegh

this feels a lot more like geyde from hydra popcorn than geyde from enemy within with the main difference being as a villager his scope was a lot wider as a villager than as a wolf. here it just feels like he’s struggling to fake that same level of exploration and decides to compensate coming across as exploratory with respect to only one slot instead of the game as a whole. felt like what he did with cheese in hydra popcorn

i’m generally bad at reading geyde but he has a ton of votes so clearly other people are seeing this stuff lol
@SaulGoodman thoughts?

After reading Katze I’m not feeling her as a wolf tbh, she is stubborn about her View on Zorvo, which could be a correct push. I see that push more as a sense of belief they are right and using their past meta of the player. Even though she is stubborn on her view she is still showing deep thought and willing to comment on other players and if they are scum or not and the positive stuff that others do.

I think she is perhaps a tad over dramatic thinking others are out to get her, but that feels more like a personality thing rather then a defensive wolf. She also agrees Heisenberg looks scummy today, but still wants to stay on current tunnel which I have no issue with as long as she does go back to it after Zorvo. Her other main wolf suspect is Hally which I would need to look into but don’t mind.

I think the biggest plus for her which is easy to fake for experienced players though, and I’m happy to be disproved on this. I find her approach very honest and no nerves or real fear. They is paranoia, but I think that is more applicable to town. I don’t see agendas more just belief she is right in her views and others are wrong.

Okay I have to warn you guys: I tend to make reads that can not be explained by normal means and rely on gut. That needed to be explained before saying that I kinda consider katze my first town read :) Just by a random post she made.

I also prefer making townreads than scumreads and defending someone I’m convinced is Town even if I get lynched for it. Will continue reading (more like skimming through the amazing number of shitposts you guys left during the night :D)

Does Zorvo still claim Doctor/Ascetic and that someone revealed his roles? Or did his position about this change?