Umineko FM: Land of the Golden Witch - Thread 1 - Days 1 & 2

Well outedwolf, you’re an odd fellow, but I must say you steam a good ham.

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yes

i think he sacrificed a better position for a much worse one in an attempt to look better but it ultimately being one that will look worse - he went from defending the/a villager who was going to die first in the dome to wanting them dead. min is a smart enough player to recognize that this will look really bad for them post flip as a wolf, and them trying to look better from it demonstrates a lack of TMI

it feels weird to have killed a wolf and yet ppl are just too scared to clear either of us

too bad im socially awkward

:pensive:

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i’m 95% sure arctic literally brought up me “shading villas and defending wolves” as a reason to wolfread me today. when we have 3 flips: 1 wolf who was yeeted by a wagon i was on, and 2 villas who i defended

lol

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i don’t want to just wave away your argument with wifom because clearly there has been thought put into it

but thats what it is wifom - if min is a wolf they made a move that got them to stay alive - min was a big push target earlier in the day and a very likely wagon candidate - them distancing from you means that if you go down first they can still lay claim to being tied to you, but you are much more likely to go down before them

lmao

clearly a heinous case of POWERWOLFING

speaking of cog psy though

i noticed spf struggling to have a confident v read on me again

and i had a ptsddog.gif moment

shrug i just don’t think it’s needed when i was clearly dying first and i buy their frustration over the fact, even though i wish they really hadn’t switched

i always complain about being the person who’s obvious town rather than in the poe and having to solve several lhf poe slots because i’ve always found the game easier to solve when you are in the poe, so i think this is just one of those times where it makes more sense from my perspective

who will be the Nutella and c4 in this game, I wonder

@sufdaddy didn’t you say you thought heisen was bussed? i feel like this doesn’t align with your scumreads on me, min and nightingale whatsoever, and also it doesn’t really make sense to want to be cleared from voting a wolf if this was the case

today is when the agenda has come into full fruition i suppose

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I believe I said a d1 wolf wagon that large probably means there was bussing somewhere, but that I don’t know who it would be. I’m not super concerned about it d2 when there are plenty of wolfy people who did not kill a wolf

my specific vote was unlikely to be a bus for various reasons. and regardless, my point has been that I killed a wolf and no one actually thinks my posts are wolfy (except you) but they still express such hesitance to townread me and try to come up with reasons why I don’t deserve any credit for killing a wolf, it’s silly and frustrating and perfectly valid fmpov as a villager.

it’s way too late, I have to go and may or may not be back before eod

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you expect me to believe you would sincerely post this as a villager lol

or not for a second re evaluate your worldview after the d1 flip and just keep going where you left off

after you went balls out trying to save a wolf

well I don’t

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i mean, since i scumread you and you have been doing what i accused you of - pushing villager(s) yes

or at least i’d expect you to realize it’s not bogus from my point of view

to be honest my scumreads of you two have mostly been an extension of the fact that i townread most of the game and that you two haven’t been villagery - which is where it would make sense to find wolves when most of the easier to read players have towntold. i don’t have much of a reason to doubt this read when i am being relentless buried by the people i’m accusing, because it gives me the impression that wolves are trying to silence me and echo chamber the notion that nothing i’ve done is villagery compared to katze when i think quite obviously that is not the case

i think i got too ambitious and made a lot of blunders uncharacteristic for me, and i don’t really know why because i’m town, maybe my hero symptoms were exacerbated by the fact this game has a lot of stronger players. but the point still stands that i played pretty poorly on an approach level as opposed to a results level, and due to us being early in the game the first is what’s more important in making most reads, so i’ve basically killed myself here

i looked at ruby’s posts overnight and i agree that the contradicting confidence thing re: gghana read is kinda weird and i think there’s a chance unfortunately that they are tmi’ing katze town

however, if the loud people that i think are town are still unconvinced by my posting today i don’t think there’s anything more i can do given my availability for the rest of the game, so it would probably be better to resolve me now. and then i can also enjoy my vacation without having to do this lol

So, I’m trying to think wether Kim’s role can be actually Town. I initially believed that there’s no chance that a role that can create new accounts and switch between them can be Town. But then I thought that having your previous account vanish would give away your role, so it doesn’t make much sense as a Mafia as you’d be drawing attention upon yourself… right?

Perhaps it’s an error of the host creating the rolecard, but I’m not sure I can appropiately determine his role just through his rolecard, which means I’m going to have to pseudo-ISO both Ruby and him and decide which one gives me more Town vibes. Although, for now, I prefer Ruby getting lynched because she is more inactive and Saul defended me. And treated me with kindness. I’ll have more to say after I have ISO’d both.