Umineko FM: Land of the Golden Witch - Thread 1 - Days 1 & 2

[sufdaddy]

u forgot sufdaddy

[Heisenberg]

Making a leaving post so I actually leave

This is because ADHD let’s be clear

[Zorvo]

@Sadbi

Are you depressed?

I mean.
No not really at this point and given my position I am just going to mess around and solve at the same time.

[Zorvo]

@sufdaddy

u forgot sufdaddy

Ah so your wolves with Katze and Halley?

[eliza]

Well you see
something will happen if heisenberg is executed today
something.
that’s my n0 ability

I don’t know why but in the pregame I gave zorvo the benefit of the doubt, which was an awful idea

[Zorvo]

@Heisenberg

This is because ADHD let’s be clear

That’s all?
I have ADHD, Tics AND a Nervous Disorder

[eliza]

I can confirm this

[sufdaddy]

my attorney says I do not have to answer that

[katze]

villagery

[Zorvo]

What if I told you.

I don’t believe this.
Might be a day 1 gambit.

[Sadbi]

Wut

[SaulGoodman]

actually before i do anything i want to see what peoples’ reasons are for voting katze and if its the same as mine (i now have actually consolidated on what i was feeling was wolfy)

[Outedwolf]

SPF Might Be Mafia:

First of all during the graveyard hours for Eastern time I felt like SPF was kind of bouncing her vote around like crazy without a real direction?

Then let’s get into what I think makes SPF mafia.

[SPOIL][QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6243766]

@Chloe;6243359

michelle feels like an obvious villager

how?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6243788]

[QUOTE=Chloe;6243731]vv: chloe / cape / remember / hally / michelle
v: ladd / visor* / lemonfairy*

*pending

everyone else is different shades of Whatever
except spf who i find actively wolfy

time to make PANCAKES[/QUOTE]

why is hally in ur v list[/QUOTE]

Although they’re not directly scumreads, they’re a bit subtle discredits to certain people being called town.

@staypositivefriend;6243853

fwiw i do think ladd has been fine beyond his push on me im just having a hard time getting past it lol

Self discredit on someone being town #1.

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6244046]

[QUOTE=Chloe;6244035]

@staypositivefriend;6244024

if i flipped town rn would ur read still be as confident

no
still leaning into villaville but with much more Concern[/QUOTE]

i hate this answer but ty[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6244056]

[QUOTE=remember;6244034]

@staypositivefriend;6243968

VOTE: aphelios

that’s true

I’ve never remembered him playing like this as a villager, it seems like he’s actually doing way too much and some of it is just weird

VOTE: aphelios[/QUOTE]

yeah his energy is off and his reads seem fake[/QUOTE]

Generic scumread

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6244481]

[QUOTE=Chloe;6244095]you frame it as a dichotomy but you didnt ask if any other reads would lower in confidence with a v!you flip, just hally

and of course i’d be less confident in my read there? shes good at the game and we all get paranoia when good player is wrong on something they’re usually right on[/QUOTE]

i just dont like the way that your read on hally has hinged partly on your read on me (and vice versa) and think it’s an easy way for you to get burned but i dont think it’s actually scummy[/QUOTE]

Although I’m seeing Chloe townreads from SPF, she seems to be pulling at the rug and setting up to push Chloe for the future.

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6244483]

[QUOTE=Michelle;6244099]

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6244039]your read on c4 seems framed as: “this gimmick is within c4’s scumrange” and not: “c4’s gimmick is actively wolf indicative”. it feels like you are latching on to something that c4 is capable of doing as a wolf as an excuse to push on him, instead of explaining why that specific behavior from him is wolf-indicative

the confidence in posts like p[POSTNUM]#754[/POSTNUM] contrasts a bit awkwardly with (imo) the weakness of your case on him[/QUOTE]

Ah, you are going into semantics with an Esl.
Makes sense.
Go on.[/QUOTE]

this is a wild response but might be town indicative i guess[/QUOTE]

Doesn’t feel like a firm enough townread that I feel town!SPF would have…?

@staypositivefriend;6244506

also michelle does not struggle to come up with confident pushes as a wolf? i think michelle is starting to towntell but idk why y’all are underestimating her so hard. she is a good wolf

Big backdoor painted out of a townread.

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6244554]

[QUOTE=staypositivefriend;6244540]

[QUOTE=ur mom;6244530]it’s not that you’re pressing people, that’s strawmaning what i said

it’s that you’re pressing people who i think are villagers and who i think you should think are villagers for reasons that you shouldn’t think warrant pressing us in particular[/QUOTE]

i mean i had chloe as town even throughout the entire time that i was pressuring her, and i just called michelle town. i didn’t even call michelle mafia when i was pressuring her either - just expressing a concern. not sure what else ur looking for[/QUOTE]

like if ur concern is that i didnt townread michelle quickly enough then idk what to tell you, i just have a different process for solving her than you do apparently[/QUOTE]

I’m kind of agreeing on Hally with this reasoning on SPF, although I have differing reasons, SPF seems to be afraid of townreading Michelle and this final response isn’t a great look I feel.

@staypositivefriend;6244618

if good question doesnt post anything substantive by the end of the day he might be outed but idk

[/SPOIL]

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TLDR: SPF spends a lot of time last night seemingly adding townreads but not as firm as I’m used to from SPF whenever she’s town. Normally she’ll display points on people’s games and then comes out with a read, I’m not seeing it here I’m more seeing loose solving from SPF and leaving the door open.

VOTE: staypositivefriend

[Zorvo]

@katze

villagery

No

[katze]

ur mom

[Zorvo]

SPF and Sadbi are Town

[spf]

FUCK

[eliza]

This feels like a challenge and I’d feel bad to slaughter you in it

[sufdaddy]

VOTE: memes

the die is cast

[Sadbi]

Fuck it im convinced