Umineko FM: Land of the Golden Witch - Thread 2 - Days 3-7

[sufdaddy]

@sufdaddy

@Achromatic

So what scum had to hope for because of the threat from Gyr is that either they could get people to vote out Gyr (lost wolf teehee) or they had to get more town than just sabi on my lynch so gyr would target them instead. That’s why there was so much dancing. Because Gyr was looking right at them and saying if you hurt my boy achro I am going to kill you.

I have townread gyr all game, since d1, and never pushed for his death

I am pretty sure I also never commented on the arson or told him what to do with it

did I miss a response to this?

[Jackrito]

Also tmi claims are super unreliable and its easy to make anyone look bad with hindsight. I had a feeling Zorvo was lying and doing a gambit based off other reactions and I come from a site where peope love to do gambits, also how people described Zorvo at the time and in my other game it was easy enough to predict.

[Achromatic]

I believe I mentioned for the scum team is was Rue who was being the mouth piece for this push and not you.

[sufdaddy]

I’m still not clear how this means I’m fake solving

I think you just said that cuz you thought it would sound good

[sufdaddy]

there was a sequence a few days ago where visor tried to push gyr and I told him to back off because gyr was likely town and he did

this point of yours is poorly considered

[Achromatic]

My apologies, I am stating this was their hope the day rue was lynched due to Gyr revealing he had more abilities to use. I have certainly not read over every day prior in detail. I also thought Gyr was a lock for being town (until Rue lynch day then I thought he might be 3p because thats a lot of death)

[sufdaddy]

and I had to tell you and katze over and over again that you should kill visor first before me

[Sadbi]

Where’s @katze

[katze]

i was actually just reading up now hi

[Achromatic]

I know I mentioned multiple times unprompted that killing visor first was best.

[Sadbi]

You were voting Zack with katze saying it was ideal to flip Zack before.

I remember this because rad and I talked about it

[Sadbi]

Wolfy pop in

[Achromatic]

What day was this just remind me

[katze]

yea tbf the “kill zack before visor” thing was more on me than anyone i think

@Sadbi

Wolfy pop in

[sufdaddy]

@sufdaddy

i dont care about 3P at this stage of the game

focus on wolves first

@sufdaddy

i dont know what the exact numbers are but lunching a 3P could be game-losing

if the wolves think gyrlander is 3P … they can nk him

I was explicitly and firmly against any kind of gyr push yesterday

[Sadbi]

@katze

if visor is a villager then zack should be a villager too, if visor is a wolf then zack… might be a wolf? i can see both worlds. atm i think if visor flipped W id kill zack before endgame but vaguely expect a V flip. which i guess inherently does come out to me thinking that zack is probably a villager

Katze do you still think this

[Achromatic]

Me too bud, but the point stands that Rue spent a long time pushing lost wolf bullshit so regardless of your argument me saying the wolves were hoping to stir gyr paranoia is just factually true.

[Sadbi]

@katze

well basically it went like

i mentioned that with arctic flipping V i wantd to look closer at visor and zack, but that i felt better about visor than zack

his thoughts on the top of his head on visor weren’t super indicative, iirc it was along the lines of “idr much but he voted a wolf at eod”

he isos both and talks about them, zack first, and i was asleep when he started getting to visor

which the tldr of it was basically that it was a lot of shitposting but he had a surprisingly low amount to worry about

i can definitely see it as him just cherry picking stuff cuz im ngl i havent opened visors iso at all this game

gth it isnt but nothing hard rules it out to me i suppose

Just bringing this up

[sufdaddy]

you lumped me in with it, it was in your big post about me

and it is unequivocally false that I ever pushed for gyrlander to die. I’ve defended him all game. Rues actions have nothing to do with me.

also you tried to kill him d1 against two wolf wagons, so nice try. I posted the vc earlier.

[Sadbi]

Searching on this forsaken site can eat my ass