Valorant FM Game Thread (13/18) [Night 2]

[Marluxion]

@Conroy

god arctic is such a mood assassin

@Conroy

immesurable heat coming in

@Conroy

the fact i know you’re pushing me for a reaction just makes it so im not interested in even talking zz

@Conroy

you posting the read in two increments dont make it any more legit in my eyes

not going to bother with “lol rvs player who hasnt been here in a year+ returns and tries to connect to who he recognizes” because well, yeah i was semi awkward but you are not using the thread context when making that read

i think the read can stand its ground on post idk 300+ where there’s activity in the thread but being “awkward” in my first post (that happens to be the 3rd post in the game) just isn’t as much of a tell as you’d want to believe

@Conroy

that’s the take

i could go deeper on what it means on a deeper lvl

but i dont really care and i dont really think you do either

just know im treating this as town indicative because like, its more than lvl1 when i put my thoughts into it

@Conroy

@Arctic

dumbstruck

awfully big words

@Conroy

yeah actually going back on that usage of dumbstruck

you’re overplaying? maybe not the word more like trying to be too into it if you think my message reads as anything close to dumbstruck

@Conroy

but yeah i was operating on the basis that it was a reaction test

@Conroy

shouldnt prod me bozo (amicable bozo calling)

@Conroy

tired me owns arctic in mafia argument

@Arctic

low confidence awkward/vibes scumread on him for his re-utterance about being unfamiliar with the players

Okay going to explain this for a second time

Is this type of read bad? No
Are you mis-using it? Yes

Why?
We live in World A, in World A I arrive into thread at SoD and face no issue when it comes to making my way into the thread, I use my situation while I’m already ease in thread with no pressure to post “better”. There is simply no agenda behind this string of post as I have literally no would be status quo I need to break into

However if we live in World B, where I arrive idk, 12 hours after day start where people already have a firm grasp on other people, then yes, me doing this can be seen as wolfy as I need a crutch to get into the game.

What people need to realize is that, I’m a social person, if you talk to me or if you talk at me, I’m going to interact with you. I excel in environments where I know other people. I’m also admittedly a very “me-centric” person, a lot of time I’ll talk about my own experience and take it as the average consensus. So when I go “I don’t know half of y’all” this is me trying to establish a link with other people in thread, not because I feel like I need to talk to others to advance my own position in thread but rather because I just happen to be social.

@Arctic

you can do that as town -i just don’t think he’d be massively interested in spamming it that much in place of any other engagement with the rest of the players

This is heavily selection based. In the end even at the time you made those posts, I was top-posting. “At the time” stands for quite literally nothing when it was already factually incorrect at that time. Saying that I’m slightly suspicious for the fact that a very small sample of my posts revolve around the same thing, is just you being biased when it comes to using small samples.

@Arctic

i started scumreading him was the way he responded to this read, by dismissing it as an RT/not something i believe in

Yes, players tend to RT. I think this is an established mafia fact and me choosing to believe your quite literal (I’m going to say it) empty reasonless vote on me, might’ve been a RT.

@Arctic

on the premise that “you can’t have reads on someone from tone based on early posts”

Literally wrong, has never been my point.

@Arctic

which… is just not a paradigm for mafia i think he believes in even in the slightest.

Once again, factually incorrect. You may try as hard as you will, this will never come out of my post history

@Arctic

he reacted with hostility and little desire to cooperate in general

False, I took the bait. I made the willing choice to interact with you further which is… the furthest thing away from having little to no desire to cooperate.

@Arctic

how i’ve seen him react to pressure before as scum

Sample: 1 game

@Arctic

the best example being FAM1 where he thought i caught him for the wrong reasons and reacted antagonistically

The game I was quasi-redchecked? That’s not caught for the wrong reasons, that’s me playing around my position in threadstate

@Arctic

reacted antagonistically

I certainly wasn’t going to cooperate with someone who claims an accurate redcheck on me, thus bad sample choice.

@Arctic

i think in mashes when i’ve seen him towning he’s felt more cooperative.

This is 3 degrees removed from being an actual claim, also speaking from experience, you as someone who has almost never interracted with me in a mash, I find it quite funny you suddenly choose to have a grasp of my meta. Pretty sick the meta only begun existing today.

Also

@Arctic

in mashes

what is the difference between 60+ players 12/12s and 48/24 18ers

@Arctic

are you against reads that early in general?

Your read was extremely based around threadstate and only makes sense if you’re pushing for me having a semblance of agenda in a completely different threadstate than what was occuring at the time.

Apples to Oranges

@Conroy

but I think arctic Villa

@Conroy

hence why I’m even bothering to go in depth when it comes to the arguments themselves rather than to try to uno reverse this into a flimsy wolf read

@Conroy

to go even more in depth I’d say that if I had no context as to who made that post and what their build-up to the read was

I’d say this is prime trying to bs a read while backed in a corner without wanting to concede said read

but I think this is too much profiling for my own good

@Conroy

@Arctic

i just feel like he’d care more about why i scumread him.

Me responding to you literally makes it so you talk about it furthermore and I thus develop a deeper read :+1

and that’s all up to the point of your post around the #670 mark

[Bellatrix]

wow i can
not read wall posts at past midnight

[Neon]

Is there aby world where you think a t!bellatrix would make that same read on Conroy? Like its kind of weird but I don’t think it’s particularly wolfy.

The menes wagon picked up a lot of steam very quickly and iirc still leads why is Bellatrix’s entrance to it any more scum indicative than someone like me who jumped on without ever having scumread Memes before that? Especially since I believe Bellatrix was pretty commonly at least mildly scum reading Memes for longer than anyone else.

Actually I may have mildly scum read him at one point early can’t remember. Point still stands.

[Marluxion]

maybe she’s just correct about conroy and is v
it’s not impossible

[Marluxion]

she’s also just been like

sidelining a lot since the big arguments happened earlier
idk

[Marluxion]

arctic is probably a villager if conroy is w though

would bet my in-game life on this read

[Neon]

I’m kind of scumreading Conroy which is really my biggest reason for questioning you on your Bellatrix push here.

[Marluxion]

I dont townread conroy actually
I think Bella and conroy might be w/w, i said as much earlier
both want each other dead
both are instead choosing to push other people

[Marluxion]

also it would make sense why from bella’s solving pov that they jumped immediately to conroy w if they were partnered

[Neon]

Kinda based take ngl.

I don’t know if I’m fully on board but it does make at least some sense. Especially since I would do exactly that lol.

[Bellatrix]

looking at this its mildly nuanced which is enough for a d1 pass
i was just gonna give conroy a d1 pass but keep him on the table
thats all it was

mostly just trying to give multiple perspectives on that line you mentioned
my only conroythoughts in the 600
no one of my posts is the complete picture but i want to illuminate it

its just hard for me to comprehend any complex posts late night on multiple nights poor sleep

[Bellatrix]

what does that mean
if it is what i think it is its probably bc ive been eating dinner and going to the airport and crap

[Bellatrix]

its only been a few hours since i first bopped conroy right

[Neon]

I still think I’d rather elim Conroy first though my read on his slot is a lot firmer than any read I have on Bellatrix

[Neon]

VOTE: Conroy

[Bellatrix]

@Host_Account_4
NeonAbbi is now Neon who isnt a registered alive player in the VC

[Neon]

I have a question would me having my user name changed effect my ability to vote?

Because my old name is still in the vote count and its not registering my vote

[Bellatrix]

VOTE: Conroy

[Neon]

Oh thank you ^^

[Silviu200530]

@beancat I thought you’re an alt of clonedcheese