Valorant FM Game Thread (13/18) [Night 2]

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#6401

I’m worried about the lack of cohesion cause it seems currently like the only read that people even mildly agree on is that I’m a wolf

And that’s not even correct, so town genuinely has no cohesion

By now there have to be some wolves pushing or shading me, even if there might not have been initially

I think it’s likely town sort of picked up the push on me and scum stayed back a bit to see if the push gained traction

So I’d rather be looking at people who are shading and not voting me, or who didn’t start voting me until later

And that probably means I should give Zorvo a rethink, since he did set me up at EoD yesterday, but the more I think about it, the more I wonder if it qualifies as straight-out too obvious and agenda’d for a wolf to do, or if that’s literally exactly what Zorvo would do as a wolf because he knows he can get away with it in most cases.

Idk it’s a tough call

I think Kiiruma is a wolf because he’s using my claim as a basis to call me town, which indirectly is calling himself town because of his similar claim, which is not really how it normally works.

I will go back through Marl’s push on Conroy from yesterday because I want to see the timeframe on when it started and how much attention Conroy was already getting at that point. I considered briefly earlier that he, too, could be TMIing me as town when he said he thought I was town but would have to fight to be townread by everyone else, but I dismissed the notion because I figured Marl was still cleared, and also that Memes was scummier than Marl.

But I’m considering, what if I have it entirely wrong? What if Zorvo and Memes are both town? That still leaves me with Kiiruma, but he could be paired with literally anyone except maybe me because copying a partner’s claim to fake pocket them is just kinda weird (not that you have to believe me). If Zorvo and Memes are both town, I would still look again at Eliza and Bella, and then I also have to start considering Marl, which I didn’t really want to do. But I have to stop shutting out some worlds because I don’t think it’s making my solving particularly good.

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#6402

also i still dont know your alignment
i have no idea why you would give up so easily as v here, the only people calling you lock scum are like seth and memes and who cares what Bad Reads Jr. and Sr. say

#6403

I agree with this but I also believe that people might have read that wrong

#6404

Things do get difficult, I agree. Not even sure what to do about that aswell.

#6405

At any rate I do not think Memes and Marl are w/w

One of them probably scum? Maybe? Idk, can they both be town? When I first subbed in i was leaning toward them both being town, then decided for a while that Memes was scummier, like enough to be on my radar but not enough that I wanted him dead. Then I thought overnight and SoD today that I would eventually push him, I did list him as likely to be partnered with Zorvo, but what if he’s just not scum? Then shouldn’t I be listening to his reads and considering them?

Idk I feel like more than one wolf has probably tried to pocket me, I don’t think any have succeeded, and I am still a very decent agenda push with minimal effort since the town still wants me dead.

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#6406

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#6407

I mean tbf part of my scumread on memes today has come from him pushing Marl who I was viewing as locktown

But what if I’m making a wrong assumption? Then I can’t just assume memes is scum.

#6408

guillo is probably v yes

#6409

I believe that Seth is very bad at explaining himself because he speaks in a certain way that is incompatible with what Marl wants :joy_cat:

#6410

That’s it?

#6411

i’m 99% sure windy that if you are V the wolves are sidelining and doing nothing right now

So
Silviu/Gorta/Kiiruma/Eevee/Blizer/Jaiden slots

#6412

if you’re not v we’ll find that out at eod

#6413

I actually assumed a wolf would try to push min today, knowing that town would interpret min’s defense of Conroy incorrectly. I guess part of the reason I figured he was town was because of meta that I assumed min would never stick his neck out that far to defend a partner, and would have given up at some point after seeing that his efforts weren’t working.
So yeah, I’m not surprised town would read it wrong, but I did not think that so many people would come into the thread and go “well, I was gonna push min today, but he is dead and he flipped town so I guess I don’t have to worry about that anymore, I was wrong”. Imo at least one of those is a wolf, and any other wolves likely didn’t comment at all on it.

And yeah, maybe that’s a point in Zorvo’s favor, idk. I’m just taking his SoD post on min as NAI for now but will revisit it later if I think it’s suddenly relevant again.

#6414

What do you know I want to lim most of these

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#6415

Yeah the start of the conflict is because Conroy presumably jumped on Jaiden’s wagon to policy kill Seth. Conroy said “yeah kill [Seth] tbh”, Seth responded aggressively back, voted him and did that long post on why Conroy isn’t making sense, drags words around and something else. Do you wish to see the quotes I’ve gathered so you can see?

#6416

So you think either I am w/w with Seth or I am v/v with Seth? Why isn’t there exactly one wolf between us?

#6417

There could be, but that has nothing to do with what i said

#6418

in SPECIFICALLY the world you are V
I think at least 2+ wolves are just doing nothing but trying to look good

#6419

Marl are you scumreading me because I told you thrice why Seth pushing Conroy made sense and it’s not TMI? :joy_cat:

#6420

Well, you said earlier that you think Seth and I are w/w

And you’re saying, if I’m v, wolves are sidelining and doing nothing, meaning Seth is not in your PoE for that

So…?

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