Vampire The Masquerade SFM: Game Thread MAFIA VICTORY

[Jarek]

kiiruma/Zone being alligned is possible from this interaction…

[Someone]

I would vote Icet, but nobody else wants that, so voting somebody townreading evil is good enough for me

[Jarek]

Kiiruma (5): Leafia, Luka, Bionic, May, Someone

Not sure I can see any of these gamers as alligned with kiiruma right now as a bonus. I’d have to look.

[Luka]

@Kiiruma

Icet and Zone are my top towns. I think the way they handled the whole hidden arsonist thing was really good. I don’t think that Icet claims to have visited Zone if he’s a wolf who did this, I think he only does this as a town member who is self aware and just wants Zone to realise the truth.

I maybe agree on Ice, you don’t explain Zone here though.

[Luka]

@Kiiruma

Then I have a sort of null pile that honestly I feel like 99% still belong in null because there’s a combo of some towny bits and some wolfy bits.

Thoughts on Jarek / Me? You don’t mention them in your post, and since we’re posting RN figure it’s a good time to start debate.

[Gorta]

sorry I’ve been away

[Kiiruma]

@Jarek

You town-read someone for being angry at being doused and wanting to kill whoever did it? That’s not townie, especially if the message was real.

I think the way Zone’s been handling it comes across as it being real.

@Jarek

A wolf and town alike don’t want to die to an arsonist especially if they know they’re doused.

Yes, yet the way which Zone kinda went to it being 3P due to how mafia typically kills (And the fact that Arsonist typically is 3P) is something which I liked as it shows towny logic/progression.

@Jarek

The way they’ve gone about it accusing the first person they see easily pits Icet and Zone as not alligned if either is a wolf, though, since they wouldn’t be accusing their teammate of being this arsonist.

Agreed, on the off-chance I’m wrong about them both currently being town, only one of them would be a wolf. I’m just stating I believe it comes from TvT moreso than TvW.

@Jarek

But other than that I think the way they’ve gone about it is wolfy as fuck and I would not be suprised in the slightest if they flipped as one.

Agree to disagree.

[Gorta]

I got distracted with gaming

[Jarek]

The take-away here is that I think icet is town and a wolf would never incriminate themselves for basically no reason by claiming to visit the landmine that is zones claim

[Luka]

@Kiiruma

Leafia and Bionic I have as the next read, within my scum tier. For relatively similar reasons. Bionic’s doing basically nothing, their vote has a grand total of 0 progression with them instead just going for what’s easy which means either bionic is a lazy towny or a wolf either of which I don’t want alive. Leafia’s progression has also been questionable but Leafia has a history of not being able to read me so I can skip that part, however, I feel like Leafia is playing it too safe this game with votes and going for what would be an easy send.

So, your case on Leafia is that they misread you, going for an “easy send”, but prior to that you say that “Leafia has a history of not being able to read me so I can skip that part?”
(Also, the Bionic thing is NAI which we should both know TBH.)

[Kiiruma]

I’ve had you 2 within my 5/6 reads which is null with slight leans but nothing definitive because I’ve seen a kind of back and forth on you 2 in my head.

[Jarek]

@Kiiruma

Yes, yet the way which Zone kinda went to it being 3P due to how mafia typically kills (And the fact that Arsonist typically is 3P) is something which I liked as it shows towny logic/progression.

I can twist it and say it shows TMI because they know as a wolf that they cannot be doused by their own teammates (lol) and there’s a very fair shot that a town arsonist that fruit vendors the fact you’re going to burn isn’t likely either.

[Luka]

@Kiiruma

Childe is my top wolf. I don’t like their posts, the fact that their first 4 posts contained a joke wolf claim really just made things worse, I think that looking at wagonomics nobody really tried to hop onto the wagon which wolves would’ve been happy to if Childe is a mis-execution. I’m not seeing enough to really justify these things to say the least.

Recent sunny village game lol. Other than that, what do you think about sunny’s actual posting?

[Kiiruma]

You can twist it and say that, and I’m happy for you to do so.
We’re each entitled to our opinions and reads.
It’s why there’s currently a minimum of 5 votes on a towny not too long after SoD lmao.

[Jarek]

Arsonists are usually 3P I understand that but the immediate conclusion that it was a 3P with absolutely no discussion or thinking on the matter is a logical leap that’s hard to believe even if it does make sense gamewise.

[Luka]

I’m also town reading Ice, or at the very least have them in my towns. Why isn’t your attention on me, out of curiosity?

[Luka]

Bionic could be. Not sure what this post is. May could theoretically be too.

[Luka]

You’re fine, thoughts on your catchup?

[Jarek]

@Luka

Bionic could be. Not sure what this post is. May could theoretically be too.

Eh to be honest I haven’t looked but a surface level look says they don’t feel it

[Luka]

@Kiiruma

I think the way Zone’s been handling it comes across as it being real.

In what way? They’ve said some. real fucking bullshit.