Video Game Upick Invitational 16er [Day 4] (6/17) [Mafia + Shopkeeper wonnered!!!]

[Kork]

This is NOT a drill

[Kanave]

From what game

[guavagudetama]

@Hazardwaste

idk this is gonna be the death of me but
Tutuu - Lean town (Fully gut)

?
She’s not in this game

@Hazardwaste

quava have done it also as not a neutral in FAM… was it fam?.. it wasnt just april showers… @guavagudetama was it PAYOR or FAM you tried the Pacifist route as well?

Def wasn’t fam
Wtf is payor

@MerpyDerpy

I’ll take your view of them into consideration, but I don’t think I’ll blindly sheep you and follow your POV.

I don’t want you to. Townies blindly sheeping is how town loses games imo even if they’re sheeping townies

@Jormok

wolf kill is optional, so a death tonight is not even guaranteed

The joke is that there’s no reason for wolves to holster day 1
The whole pacifist schtick joke is that logically wolves would never ever not kill someone tonight

@Jormok

For once it is not a purely social game, we have the luxury of not actually being forced to vote someone out Day 1.

But if we don’t we have a 0% chance of killing a wolf unless we have town KP which is possible but I don’t really trust a town KP to make a correct shot after Leafia shot a claimed mason Kanave in that one game

@Apocryphal

Any further questioning will get you even more scumread

What?
Oh you’re moving down what the fuck do you mean
This is such a scumpost Apo what

“If you keep talking and discussing this thing about the game I’m scumreading you” is CRAZY

@Jormok

I wanna go with what Guava jokingly said in the beginning and take it seriously… what if no one has to die, lmao? Maybe there is a role that is like “if no one dies in x days, everyone wins.”

If only we were in a RP game

@Kork

I would have more reads, but tbh I read stuff and then forget about it most of the time so I really just said what came to me, so sorry that my list feels kind meh

I actually have that problem too so I edit my readlist as I read thread
Usually helps me at least have my opinion down even if I don’t remember why they’re there

@Drinks

Sleep = 1 town dead by tomorrow
Axe = 1 town dead + 75% additional town dead, but 25% chance evil is dead

This makes it sound bad but it’s actually good

@Jormok

It’s a very long term strat that involves voting sleep every day until something happens, lmao.

Oh Jormok is a wolf who’s gonna convince his buddies not to kill tonight cool

@Drinks

Jormok has poured gasoline where I did not think it possible to start a fire.

Bro started a fire on water

@Jormok

What’s your favorite color?

Brown WWWWWWWWW

@Kork

Jormok wolf? This is so sad

Jormok/Kork now w/w and I’m retracting what I said about Jormok w earlier then cuz I think Kork is w

@Apocryphal

Vote Jormok

@Apocryphal

Ingrained?

Inherent

Many other words that invoke a intense ideology of malice and incense against day 1 sleep and incentivizing eliminating every time

This push on Jormok is so funny because it’s not actually a read Jormok is just doing things Apo doesn’t like
Apo can you push on an actual scumread please?

@Bylamir

VOTE: Jormok

Explain.
If you say “because Apo told me to” you should unvote.

@Demisha

Not true

That’s a reference to the last invitational

@Demisha

Also not true look at Zorvo’s posting style, and going through your ISO right now it’s def looking like one of those (Half of it was Nya’s or Sekai stickers)

Okay but Zorvo… is an exception you know why he lives

@Demisha

“Slight” takeback if you will, take-backs of opinions right away tend to not be a good look because it shows you tried to implant an idea on other people’s subconscious by opening with a bigger word and then you tried to eliminate your trace off that memory in people’s minds by quickly after making it something diminute or smaller

POV I said the wrong thing and hit send without thinking (it’s how I have so many posts)

@Demisha

I get you’ve been doing mostly joke votes up until this point but surely a player with your experience realizes that if you keep doing this more than 1~2 times it’s gonna start looking like you’re “playfully” trying to slide a shot in the dark to see if it just so happens to get some traction and suddenly you could act like it’s not a joke anymore

That wasn’t a joke I was dead serious suspicious of you for that
I didn’t like that I thought it was weird but then you explained it the next day and I was like “oh, okay”

@Demisha

Normally this is pretty null but the fact that the Unvote on me happened when Kana entered thread has me lost in thought… It probably doesn’t mean anything though… Surely

Who was I even voting there
You?
I unvoted you after I saw your explanation but I wasn’t on right when you explained it iirc

@Demisha

I thought you were saying a bit ago that these games feel like low stakes? (?)

Kana made a post saying she would never talk to me again if I ML’d. THOSE were the stakes. Before there weren’t any.

@Demisha

Scum reads are just wrong,

And you know that right

@Demisha

You vote Merpy? Even if you ignore your scum reads you seem more vehement about the bad feelings on Eliza’s slot earlier. In fact I don’t think you mentioned Merpy in a negative light once before that read list

Because I didn’t realise Merpy was suspicious until I ISO’d her which I mention in the following posts
Are you even ISOing me? This was so cherrypicked it’s fucking crazy
You did write this, right?

[guavagudetama]

@Kork

Is that so? VOTE: sleep

Ugh

[guavagudetama]

VOTE: Kork

There are more suspicious people than you but you basically just said “PLEEEEEASE VOTE ME APO!!!” So I assume you want to die

[Kanave]

@guavagudetama

Def wasn’t fam
Wtf is payor

Play At Your Own Risk

[MerpyDerpy]

Right. That is my plan. I’m not saying we have to vote right now and cut off discussion. What I’m saying is voting is better than being idle and voting sleep. I can understand the confusion since “shoot into” gives the impression that we’re just spinning a wheel and praying. I’d call it more of an educated guess rather than luck.

[guavagudetama]

OH
Might have been idr anything about that game
In another game I had to be reminded that I was scum in that game because I was acting like I was town

[guavagudetama]

@guavagudetama

I was scum in that game

I was scum in PAYOR I mean

[Kanave]

Not Voting (5): Doodleshy, Hazardwaste, MerpyDerpy,

[guavagudetama]

gagged

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

VOTE: Kork

[MerpyDerpy]

Can you elaborate on this? I’d love to talk this out with you, but I’m not sure what you’re saying lol

[Kanave]

Welcome to the thread, any thoughts on ANthem’s read on you?

[Kanave]

This game you haven’t really taken many hard stances yet, it feels like you’re leaving room to change your mind later

[Kork]

@guavagudetama

So I assume you want to die

Nah, I don’t wanna die, it’s really just I wanted to poke at em.

@ElizaThePsycho

VOTE: Kork

Why the hell is eliza sheeping so much and not giving any input

[Kanave]

@guavagudetama

I was scum in PAYOR I mean

me when I asked my teamate to read my rolecard to me

[Apocryphal]

1: There are plenty of town reasons to want to nix Day 1 role discussion

2: Jormok legitimately is just making bad posts, I don’t like their posts, I get why they’re doing what they’re doing, (because I myself am a “Play in a scummy manner” type of player), but that doesn’t stop me from disliking their posts and the vibe they bring to the game. I play mafia to shitpost, solve, and socialize. All three need to be present for me to have enjoyment.

[Bylamir]

@guavagudetama

Explain.
If you say “because Apo told me to” you should unvote

He lost rock paper scissors

[Apocryphal]

I endorse Kork votes tbh, because his posts are just as bad as Jormok’s