I talk enough in these games I think letting someone else yap on would do some good
Thatās great, people will self-resolve themselves as well, because I dont see any other alternative right now.
then if i lose a leg would i become Ahab?
This is both cute and brutal at the same time.
Distracted playing board games with my roommates waiting for the power to go out
Wolf
VOTE: Chomps
Iām from the future this is obviously a wolf
I find this immediate claim to be villagery, though the intensity of this obviously depends on Leafiaās particular ability. I expect her ability to be real, at the very least. I feel a wolf would be more likely to attempt to keep this in their pocket until it was necessary.
This vote simply follows Leafiaās opener, and it feels that Chomps is hanging-on a little bit. I think that Chomps is mildly wolfy and mildly unpaired with Leafia.
I initially felt this post was villagery, though I now feel some hesitation, as it could go either way depending on Ishmaelās particular personality. I think it is important to keep anticlaim in mind, and the reminder is appreciated. Wolves are thought to be more likely to read their own anticlaim, so this post may be something that a wolf would try to avoid. However, it also could be read as a wolf Ishmael attempting to avoid Leafia self-confirming, or simply trying to look helpful by giving a reminder, and its tone feels a little awkward to me.
I appreciate that Leafia is coming to the same conclusions as me, and I feel this is slightly villagery for her.
This joke is awkward.
I find this confidence from SirDerpsAlot, even in jest, to be villagery.
This post is less wolfy than the last, though it does not entirely bring Ishmael back up to null for me.
I find this post villagery as well, as I feel a wolf would be too worried about this reading as an agenda push to say it.
This is a display of confidence from Jarek, though whether it is show remains to be seen.
This is also a bit villagery, in my opinion, though I can see where it would come from if SirDerpsAlot were a wolf. If true, it complicates my ability to read him, as I usually find a lack of fear of execution to be villager indicative. An execution-proof wolf would be a frustrating ability, though I think it could be done in a way that is fair to play against.
I have nothing to say on this opener.
However, I find this second post to be villagery from Frostwolf103. It is a decently detailed piece of analysis that was not entirely necessary for a wolf to get into.
This frankness is villagery, though, again, it could just be a personality trait for Ishmael. I would say Ishmael is back at null for me, or maybe slightly >rand town.
This setup speculation is also a little bit more detailed than Frostwolf103 would necessarily need to get into as a wolf. I do hope Frostwolf103 does not solely focus on the setup going forward, and if he seems to avoid making proper reads I will cease to find the mechanical discussion particularly villagery.
I agree with essentially everything Magnus has said here, though my opinion on Ishmael has developed somewhat more and I find her less wolfy than I think Magnus does. My opinion on Magnus themselves is somewhat positive thanks to this.
I try to avoid secondhand meta, but I find a principle of avoiding meta altogether to be frustrating. I can understand the position more if it comes from a feeling that meta is not fun, but it is near-impossible to claim that meta is not effective. It is harmful to be over-reliant on meta to the point that a player breaking their meta completely blindsides you, but meta is still an effective starting place, especially on Day 1.
SultanOfSlam posting only what appear to be song lyrics is a little bit odd, and it is something I feel could be a sign of premeditating openers as a wolf.
This is a villagery way to claim, as it locks in a wolfās claim space. Jarek can no longer fabricate a claim on the spot in response to an investigative claim, and I feel a wolf would be less likely to workshop a fakeclaim this early on, at least not one of the skill level I have come to expect here.
I find this sequence to be mildly villagery from SultanOfSlam and wolfy from Chomps. I am glad SultanOfSlam broke the song lyric posting early, as I feel a wolf leaning on such a gimmick to avoid awkwardness in posts would be more likely to hold on to it until somebody commented.
I agree with the earlier part of Magnusās message here, but I did not find that Jarekās response was particularly awkward. Studying it more closely, it appears the quadruple-claim was in response to Jarek feeling suspected by SultanOfSlam, which is notable, if not particularly wolfy or villagery in isolation.
I find this post and the ensuing vote to be reasonable and villagery.
This is a natural and confident read, in my opinion.
This opener is entirely null.
And I find this opener to be a little bit wolfy, though I cannot explain why.
This aggressiveness is a good sign.
I find this response wolfy, as it feels as if beancat has been a little bit thrown off by the question and is trying to hide it.
I wish these posts were more condensed, as it is difficult to quote them like this. I find this burst of posts to be noncommittal and therefore wolfy.
This is better in terms of tone, but I find the specific read made by yurkin to be boring and wolfy. Itās overly surface-level.
Magnus and I continue to almost completely share a mind. I find this villagery for Magnus.
We do not entirely share a mind on this point, but I find it a reasonable enough take.
I did not think of this on my own, but I find the former to be a reasonable analysis. I would have to re-read some posts to form an opinion on the latter, and I would like to focus on catching up at the moment.
This is fair.
Kiirumaās indignance here is almost wolfy.
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This lightheartedness is somewhat forced and could easily come from a wolf who is simply not in the mood to play.
āFineā is how a wolf reads a friend who they simultaneously do not want to lock as villager or upset. āNot to be underestimatedā is similarly effective as agenda.
Frostwolf103 continues to be villagery.
I continue to wolfread Kiiruma.
As do I.
I will compile these feelings into a read list in a moment.
Leafia t
Frostwolf103 t
Jarek t
Magnus t
SultanOfSlam lt
SirDerpsAlot lt
Aleph n
beancat n
Chomps lw
Kiiruma lw
lol w
yurkin w
I can explain any of these reads if desired.
This is more wolfleans than I usually find myself having at this point in the game. That is a pleasant enough surprise.
I find myself most interested in pursuing lol as a vote target at the moment. I would like more players in the game to comment on how they feel about the slot. I would like more players in the game to comment in general, as I will have trouble reaching the post minimum if I remain alone in this thread.
VOTE: lol.
From my experience lol isnāt the highest poster in the game they tend to be on the low side, itās hard to call it indicative of anything, if thatās where at least part of the wolfread is coming from
I am not the one to definitely want someone dead day 1. Others are, Iām moreā¦see what sticks kinda behaviour.
Rhea though a very long post i actually took time to read all of it seems very honest and open
I get a strong TL in them from it. The thoights arenāt just thrown together which was nice
Sultan respinses in ( )
some call me Aleph some call me Ishmael
depends on their fancy
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I did not make the connection that you were the same. I copied the player list from the original post. I put you as null because I knew I did not have any thoughts on the player āAlephā. Now that I know you are the same playerā¦ you are still null.
nothing ever truly changes i see
As described, the texture of Rheaās entrance poster is remarkably homogeneous to the conclusions I had also formed. In a more prickly environment I might pry at that further, since itās incredibly lazy to just accept a mindmeld as a reason for a townclear, but it nonetheless is sufficient for me to restructure my list of opinions at the moment. Sure.
I will not be finishing this mindmap.
| Chomps | Ishmael | Beancat | Yurkin | Lol | Rhea | Jarek | Frost | Kiiruma | Sultan | SDA | Leafia | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Frost | ||||||||||||
| Failed to argue against early suspicion which conveys an attempt to evade scrutiny, proceeding to self-vote isnāt really villagery. However, Chomps is also always suspicious. | Misinterprets Leafiaās confirmation claim. Not really indicative of much except a focus on discussion instead of evaluation. | Shading Leafia as defensive whilst accepting her claim as plausible is inconsistent and thereby unpairing. | Leafia | |||||||||
| Rhea | ||||||||||||
| Somewhat surprising SDAās immunity claimed gained any notice whatsoever, but itās likely unpairing. | SDA | |||||||||||
| Performative RVS (unpairing?) | Sultan | |||||||||||
| Jarek | ||||||||||||
| āForgot about the gameā ā townslip, albeit an easily feignable one. | Lol | |||||||||||
| If researching MAL was supposed to be performative, Lol wouldāve checked the actual games and not the site itself. It appears Lol grew bored mid-way which is consistent with exhibited traits. | Kiiruma | |||||||||||
| Not actually suspicious, just in my POE anyway due to limited content. | Beancat | |||||||||||
| Sincere request to be vig-shot resembles a perspective slip, less indicative than Iām pretending it is. | Yurkin | |||||||||||
| Limited interactions. | Chomps | |||||||||||
| Potentially NAI but permitting thread stagnation is a historical scum behaviour from Ishmael, which means it applies even if others are also guilty. | Ishmael |
Dammit youre right im just tired. Sparing night at taekwondo lol
It is normal for players to low-post. I have done so, after all, and I am a villager. What I am wondering about is the sheer volume of time that lol has spent in the thread doing absolutely nothing. It indicates that lol has availability but no desire to play the game.
Out of curiosity, would you say this behavior specifically, posting extensively about non-game-related material, is normal for villager lol? I do not read off of secondhand meta, but I would like to hear your thoughts in order to understand your mindset here better.
On a similar line, I would like to understand more about your read on Chomps. Do you think other players should vote for Chomps right now? Do you have any particular reason you have placed this vote?