Wild West FM 2 (2/25) - Town wins!

[dota]

i knew you had a life after all

[Arctic]

@eevee

Eh, random example:

I was searching who to follow with reads due to limited time (as I said, I have work evaluation on 31st).
D2 I asked Magnus, he told me to shoot Leafia or Frost and I refused.

From scum pov it’s town telling you to shoot town. Easy gain.
From my PoV, I followed Achro d1, due to theirs approach on Leafia specifically. (Which was rather early on) so telling me to shoot someone I was townreading was… not going to happen.

Stuff like this, which makes no real sense from scum PoV. There is a quite a few of those.

maybe this is valid?

@eevee

Yeah, I know, I’ve read like ~half of alive ones by now.

But it’s bit of like… if you want to shoot someone, you at least read them? And before then, you keep them as null?
That’s how stuff usually works.

Meanwhile, to my understanding May scumreads me because of Wazza, which is fair, but I there was no argument about my actions there, so I’m assuming they shot me without reading anything.

Zorvo was saying about me and Maple having exactly 1 wolf becouse of “Votes, shoots and activity”, where when I checked Maple didn’t vote and was inactive on both EoD, meanwhile I was voting or active on both. Maple shot someone, meanwhile I holstered.

Aka. the most generic answer. I guess basing mostly on feelings.
Intuit players exist, but again, let’s not build a logic out of thin air, but read. And even if then you can’t explain it, cause it’s how you feel… then at least say that’s how you feel. Not build generic answer which is… kind of not even hitting.

You get the point.

Basically I think the whole movement rn is based on lack of reading. Not becouse of scurmead, cause someone might think my actions would be specifically -EV for scum so I can pull it out now.
But more of becouse no one tried to put even that kind of argument up.

but why do i feel like you are directing this towards the general thread rather than the person scumcasing you (may)?

@guavagudetama

@eevee

And I’m slightly tilted about May refusing to talk with me.

@May talk to Eevee cuz I’m pretty sure this is just a townie LOL

me when being tilted makes you town

@eevee gth who is the most likely person to be scum right now

[Arctic]

@guavagudetama

basically they reasoned that Magnus told them to shoot Leafia or Frost on day 2 and they refused which implies that they’re town because why would they not shoot a townie that another townie told them to shoot because they don’t even have to take the fall for it, Magnus would

but they didn’t shoot

@May what are your thoughts on this

[Arctic]

i think the interaction between guava/eevee is a good look for guava

level 0 analysis is that what eevee is saying about how he didn’t shoot frost/leafia makes is a good look for him, but honestly? he likes playing pro-town as scum by not going after LHF and bussing so he can use arguments like this in his favour, so i wonder how AI it is really. especially since i think he’s smart enough to realize he would probably get pushed around today if he’s mafia. idk i doubt i can read the guy very well honestly

[eevee]

Yeah, again, I read one person at a time.
I didn’t read a single post from Zorvo yesterday.

I talked with who I’ve read with Magnus on day 2, you can see that Zorvo is not on a list.

[Arctic]

@Jaiden

why is maple town

i doubt these posts come from newbscum unless coached:

@Maple

Ayo how do I shoot somone, or take any action at night really

(like why would mafia say that last bit lol?)

@Maple

I’ve been figuring out how to shoot someone the entire 2nd day lmao

@Maple

I really just realised there’s only 2 roles
I thought there are plenty lmao

also, unlike kork, there actually seems to be some attempt at parsing what’s going on with the game? they also try to get people to explain the jargon to them. i feel like between these two i would much rather kill kork, who lacks both genuine moments and an attempt at actually figuring out the game

do you have a reason to prefer killing maple over kork?

[eevee]

I was not only one, there was actual wagon traction of like 5 people a 2-3 minutes earlier.
They CFDed elsewhere.

[Arctic]

you were the only person voting when you unvoted, but dota and guava were still voting him like a minute before the end so fair enough ig

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

ohohoho you’d like to think so wouldn’t you

[BradLand]

Had him as a shot option but a few people had him as town when I asked. So I shot at May instead.

[Arctic]

but why does there have to be wolves on lol

achro is a much more valuable elimination for wolves than lol (no offense to lol but this is clearly true since scum wanted achro dead so much that they killed him n1 despite being a counterwagon at eod)

[BradLand]

We’re voting out Kork?

I’m assuming he’s still provided 0 reads or thoughts on the game.

Which is fair, don’t mind that yeet.

[Arctic]

@Jaiden

why is O.kazo town

@Jaiden

doesnt that just make O.kazo and wazza very unlikely to be s/s?
scum!O.kazo would have a very good reason to be like that, in fact I think its kinda weird not to have hesitation when shooting someone

@Jaiden

yes, theyre very unlikely to be s/s
that is the opposite of accusing them of being s/s

@Jaiden

RIGHT wzza is dead oops
sorry my heads uh
wow

i think i lost braincells reading this
what do people think of this

[eevee]

@Arctic

but why do i feel like you are directing this towards the general thread rather than the person scumcasing you (may)?

Becouse it is directing it towards general thread.

I didn’t read May and May refused to interact with me. I’m very non-trigger happy person, as you know. Rather calculated moves and game plans.

On a different note - I also don’t need to start argument with May, when they don’t want to interact with me. I will need to read and focus on them later.

And on even differentier note - the goal is more towards convince Guava and explaining game situation from my PoV.

A mix of those.

In hindsight, since first and two sound similar - first is “I don’t have information” and second is “I can’t get information with this”.

[Arctic]

i didnt realize he had that many votes tbh i was just arguing that out of kork/maple i think maple is townier but yeah i wouldn’t mind killing kork as long as we do get a shot off on someone that would give more information

[eevee]

@Arctic

you were the only person voting when you unvoted, but dota and guava were still voting him like a minute before the end so fair enough ig

Yeah, Magnus was CFD attempt I decided to support.

As I said earlier, I disagreed with Magnus take on people I’ve read so far, which was triggering me. Despite knowing he is most likely town by actions.

Especialy since it was led by Dota, who was on opposite side of spectrum, with scumym sounding posts, but opinions I mindmelded.

Like… literally opposites for me.

[BradLand]

This is shit because Magnus was towny as fuck and literally that was the ONLY shot that hit somehow. I learned nothing off of that.

[eevee]

Yeah, as I said.

If you read my ISO it’s more or less actions which are pro-town. And they are kind of hard to justify other way than “to get alibi”. And while I agree that it’s fitting my playstyle… I don’t think it’s day for paranoia?

Same what I said about Zorvo saying there has to be scum in Aro’s shooters. Like sure, but… I don’t think it’s day for paranoia.

[Arctic]

@eevee

I disagreed with Magnus take on people I’ve read so far,

where did you say he disagreed with his takes? i remember you saying that you felt something was off with him, but not this

[BradLand]

Low key that shot should’ve been mine, especially when literally I posted when my phone clock hits 5:00 exactly to get it off, but I didn’t get it for some stupid reason.

Meanwhile Day 2 Dota sent his in at 5:00 exactly my time, but the hosts were missing a full extra hour and came in and gave Dota his shot then.

Literally I was on time but I didn’t get my shot because of the hosts deciding to fuck around.