But I wouldn’t call it “obvious”
Not by a long shot LMAO
I mean, it should be more or less to anyone who did read back. but I guess no one really does on this forum.
Which is kind of funny, considering hwo few posts I have, so it shouldn’t be hard to do so.
What do you think makes you so “obviously town?”
Like I must have forgotten something because I don’t remember seeing anything that made me go “oh okay Eevee is town for sure” like I did with some other people
You have to remember there are other people in the thread that I have to read
Eh, random example:
I was searching who to follow with reads due to limited time (as I said, I have work evaluation on 31st).
D2 I asked Magnus, he told me to shoot Leafia or Frost and I refused.
From scum pov it’s town telling you to shoot town. Easy gain.
From my PoV, I followed Achro d1, due to theirs approach on Leafia specifically. (Which was rather early on) so telling me to shoot someone I was townreading was… not going to happen.
Stuff like this, which makes no real sense from scum PoV. There is a quite a few of those.
Like go read into small actions and my posts and try to find motivation besides “it would look good as alibi”.
Becouse I’m thinking my actions so far were rather -EV if I was scum.
And reading ISO and trying to check this out would probably pass it pretty straightforward.
Yeah, I know, I’ve read like ~half of alive ones by now.
But it’s bit of like… if you want to shoot someone, you at least read them? And before then, you keep them as null?
That’s how stuff usually works.
Meanwhile, to my understanding May scumreads me because of Wazza, which is fair, but I there was no argument about my actions there, so I’m assuming they shot me without reading anything.
Zorvo was saying about me and Maple having exactly 1 wolf becouse of “Votes, shoots and activity”, where when I checked Maple didn’t vote and was inactive on both EoD, meanwhile I was voting or active on both. Maple shot someone, meanwhile I holstered.
Aka. the most generic answer. I guess basing mostly on feelings.
Intuit players exist, but again, let’s not build a logic out of thin air, but read. And even if then you can’t explain it, cause it’s how you feel… then at least say that’s how you feel. Not build generic answer which is… kind of not even hitting.
You get the point.
Basically I think the whole movement rn is based on lack of reading. Not becouse of scurmead, cause someone might think my actions would be specifically -EV for scum so I can pull it out now.
But more of becouse no one tried to put even that kind of argument up.
But weren’t both Leafia and Frost wagons at the time? You or your teammates could have gotten them ML’d (which literally happened to both of them LMAO one of them was shot and the other was voted)
This is the post that I think you were responding to Magnus with? When they said to shoot Leafia or Frost yesterday
Votecount as of post #3649
Leafia (2): Zenon, iaafr
Frostwolf103 (2): May, Arctic
This is what the top wagons looked like
But actually I think I’m wrong cuz idk who your partner would be in that world where you leave Leafia and Frost alive to get ML’d
May? She’s pushing you rn
iaafr? Literally flipped town
Arctic? It’s possible and I don’t like his eod2 in relation to Frost but I highly doubt it
Zenon? She still could be scum responsible for Achro’s death so she could ML Leafia but I’m trying to trust her right now
So ig that only makes sense from town pov
If Zenon ends up being scum I’m revisiting you about this “no shoot to ML Leafia” tinfoil but for now you’re town in my eyes
Well I didn’t wanna shoot you LOL
That’s why I unvoted
(Idk if that was about me or May actually)
I think if it was a gut read he woulda said that though? His ego isn’t so big that he wouldn’t admit to a read being based on intuition
I think
What is EV
I mean, you do your logic. I already know mine.
But point is… I think that actions like this can in the end clear me, if someone stopped to read.
Issue is that I don’t think anyone did.
Effort value.
Positive impact of your action towards your win condition.
-EV means that my actions make no sense from scum perspective, as they bring relative loss in pursuit of wincon, in compare of other actions I could do.
In this example, being given town or town to shot, but other town and… not shooting.
Cause they were easy targets regardless.
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Y’know, this disposition where you seemingly don’t care about anyone’s logic is probably why they don’t interact with you
Also for this theory - who was 3rd lynch target?
Cause me not shooting to save a misslynch would be connected to someone from scum team being on 3rd place. So you know, I can “save a counterwagon for a lynch”.
Afair there wasn’t anyone close to those two, but I might be wrong.
Eh. This is not true.
In this case I mean “I know what was motivation for my own actions”. You cannot convince me otherwise, cause it was my action and I know what I did.
Bit of unique case. Doesn’t apply everywhere.
Like who else was being wagoned?
It was like 4 wagons that each had 1 vote
Just checked
Rajidae, Gar, Wazza and Arctic
Voted by Jar, Myself, Zorvo and Brad respectively
Well.
Looks at Wazza.
But considering there were three other wagons Wazza wasn’t in too much danger (and then she got shot but ignore that)
I was actually busy I just wanted to respond to that part.
There are wolves within the votes and there are flipped town within that so somewhere within the votes or non voters contains the wolves.
I won’t put it out of the question however if your town you know that isn’t the case.
However I doubt both May and Brad are aligned here ever.
Yeah but within those movements, one of you is a hit.
I also have certain people registered as town and I have others who are dead town and I have votecounts and those who aren’t voting.
You and Maple likely contain a wolf, very very likely chance.
Kurk however is where it might fuck over this read because if that player is a wolf I’m not sure if the You/Maple holds true.
But going through solves like this is more analysis based but I believe in it and going through with it.
Ok back. To continue.
In general mostly. I’m thinking like Leafia yesterday.
You know, stuff like this is not exactly rare.
I’m having hard time to really imagine it being anything but intuition read.
Answer was definitely forced. And it kind of fits the bill, intuits are usually bad when it come to justification, which generates problems with more logic based players.
So I’m not going to hold it against him, especially since I didn’t read the rest of iso yet.
But like… if it was actual answer, then I don’t get the point of it, considering how generic and unfitting the situation it was.
1 vote?
It would need more reasearch about who was actually under pressure then I guess.
Not that I’m gonna do it, since it’s theory on myself.