You’re more experienced with her than I am, so this is valuable data TY
I say this as if “consensus people” means anything.
My main problem is that I haven’t backread people individually; I just lurk in the thread and judge people based off that.
In terms of reads, I align quite closely with Atlas (they’re my biggest townread outside of Zone) if that helps matters.
hmm ok thank u
No problem. Ping me if you need anything else.
@Ash these are both players you know pretty well, yeah?
id love to have you get a more more in depth on their postings and see how you feel? moreso carbonated cause i think benguin is probs dying no matter what but. yknow.
wheres ur natural curiosity smh
this sums up my issue reading ashs posts tbh
just kinda stiff
i do think that they are kinda Like This but i dont actually remember the last time they played a game so consider this a cookie thread personality read (elite reads, iyam)
if this post gets 1 like i will make reads
all i got is a 
sudden strong wish rabbit was playing
if we needed 69000 more posts
rabbit would help me with the unconvincing selfmeta reads
i cant do it without him
Ash is generally stiff, yeah. I’ve played games with him as town before on VC and longform he’s just like this. I was mildly shielding ihm earlier from tonereads
(all of my tier lists are unordered within tier, always, unless i specify otherwise)
TIER 1 - I don’t think this tier should have any wolves ever
Achromatic
Daeron
Jane
Zone_Q11 – Don’t let him annoy you into killing him, both heads of this slot have been insanely villagery. 100% confident
TIER 2 - This tier is also very likely pure but I’m giving myself an out in case I suck
baudib1 – im kinda yoloing this one, ngl, but we ball
CarrotyReaper
Creature
ElizaThePsycho – this is a lot higher than most people have her, so im gonna explain this later (or below? idk we’ll see)
Hallia
WindwardAway
Gocj
Sadbi – yeah they’re annoying but they’re town lol
TIER 2.5 - I want to put them in Tier 2 but im scared
an_gorta_slanktai – lock V in if jinrou is mafia tho
Atlas (probably the name im most scared to put here, but should still be v??)
Stick – hold accountable later, but dont want dead for a few days at the least
dyachei
Yawn – gap because im a bit extra scared here
TIER 3 - Should be town in most worlds, but could be wrong
Manny
Millium
Kanave
SilverKeith – kind of like tier 2.5.5 cause idk. scary. but villagery.
Artemis – kinda conflicted here, but i’m kinda sheeping this one
Selkie – i think her role is ~very likely to be a town role, but i don’t want to put her higher… i probably should tbh
Apocryphal – nya
Frostwolf103
May – less confident than above
BradLand
TIER 4 - Villagery, but weaker/worse reasons
Brakuren
beancat – i had her higher but i don’t… actually remember anything she’s done atp.
SirDerpsAlot
Wazza
neil_the_eel
Ranta – yes this is literally because i think they’re trying to be a hero villager this game.
bystander
Hippopablompoyeetus
Ashlyn
TIER 5 - yolo reads i feel strong enough about to not directly PoE them (but probably contains wolves knowing me)
Jarek
Ephemera
gori
Marluna
ash4fun
(probably any name missing from this)
Ari
Ash
benguinedparbecue
Bionic
carbonated
ChaosNinjaGaming
crazynuto
Dum
Gorta
Hazardwaste
Hehehaha420blazing
jail
Jinrou
Kelsier
Kork
Lucid_Daydream
Marluxion
Memekingpizza
Meuh
pandora
Porscha
Someone
Zugzwang (for the record, i did a bit of poking around and zug is probably telling the truth about why they would be Less Villagery than D1 as town, so i want to give them a chance, but ultimately they still landed here)
the above list has a decent chunk of names i could probably say make them maybe a villager, but ultimately i just feel like they’re all weak.
the above list is obviously going to contain villagers, probably a good amount of them, but i think it should contain a good chunk of mafia? hopefully?
my plan was to read more on the last tier but i cant be bothered right now. maybe if work tomorrow is slow, but i kinda doubt it will be
anyway, lemme talk about eliza before i forget
so at the start of this night i was also added to the “banned users chat” eliza was talking about, and everything she said there was, in fact, what happened
i don’t think this is LOCK CLEARING because there are two other alive players in the chat so leafia engaging in w/w theatre is… more likely, but to paraphrase the conversation:
eliza: hi
leafia: hi eliza. i have ur flavor, you’ll see that at eod :3
eliza: dang
eliza: whats my role
leafia: i have more super likes and some other stuff
eliza: [speculating about what this chat is/the mech behind it]
eliza: yeah that makes sense
leafia: idk [about eliza speculation]
eliza: [speculating about what this chat is/the mech behind it]
leafia: im curious what your flavor is
eliza: no
leafia: fair enough have a nice day
(later)
eliza: if ur here, why shouldnt i ita you?
leafia: im dying at eod
eliza: youve been shot like 5 times lol
i dunno, it all feels fairly unpaired to me. i’ve already had eliza as fairly villagery this game, so
i will admit i am being more confident than normal here because i know if i hedge like i usually do then eliza will find a way to get herself shot (same with zone) but im p sure she’s town
there is part of me that wants to kind of explain why i think a few of the mechanical things i think, primarily selkies role and gortas, but i might just die with those secrets tbh.
actually i don’t really care if gorta gets claimvigged by mafia but ill still be vague because im a dweeb.
if i die, my first instinct SoD2 is that his role is the wolf counterpart to my role – but the information i have about the game does make it possible that his role and mine can coexist as village roles
he is also one of the players in the banned chat.
(the only two people who have spoke in it are eliza/leafia, for the record. there is a solid chance both eliza and leafia didnt even notice there was other people in it, for all i know)