'80s Wild Overhaul FM - TOWN VICTORY

The effect isn’t permanent.

To be fair, my role doesn’t really confirm/investigate players directly

It’s more like adding more revealed roles to the OP, in effect

There is definitely room for CCs, it’s just less now w a massclaim

@Cream
What was your first read on Bean and what was your progression on the slot?

I’ll admit myself I was null on the slot cause I didn’t read much of them other then their vote on me which doesn’t mean shit.

Your claiming a very very easily fake-a-ble role.
I remember claiming some weird Night 0 Cop Role as mafia and had to retract it.

If I’m not mistaken all your claiming to be able to do is know the name of a wolf role and a town role which is handy but you also claimed you can no longer get the name of the wolf role cause you failed on using it or something.
Which IMO is even more mafia fake-a-ble cause this stops you from revealing anything if you are mafia or lying about a mafia role that isn’t a mafia role so now all you really have to do is claim someone’s role is legit and that person doesn’t necessarily have to be town and could just be your partner.

D1 he was on VLA so off the table.

D2 I said he was sus because of his inconsistency with the way he treated your view on Marluna. I think that was the first thing that jumped out to me as scummy.

Although it might not seem that I bring anything new to the table, it’s just that I was writing a long wall post and what I had independently thought of in my wallpost was already mentioned beforehand (I think by Lissi).

Him swapping to Gyrlander showed poor reading, though that’s not necessarily always scum indicative. So I questioned him further about it.

Then I went to sleep.

When I woke up, there were a lot of votes on him.

I didn’t comment publicly on his slot anymore because it’s against my personal belief to rag on someone who is already down. I want people to have a good mafia experience.

Mentally, I was getting cold feet at a certain point due to how many people were on that wagon, and I had a lot of self doubt as to whether or not this was just LHF.

But his comment on looking into Glass/Lissi felt really scummy to me. No matter what alignment, just to survive, you’d need to at least look into your scumreads, and try to push for something there.

Looking into Glass/Lissi felt like an unnatural thought.

I was also slightly irked that he didn’t reply to my question about who he thought was mafia on the Marluna wagon after I had corrected him. I thought it was scummy to be evasive in that manner.

In the end, I reflected on my past games, and I do think I tend to get cold feet when other people start sheeping me and there is large wagon traction, and I think when I make rash decisions, they tend to be incorrect. So I tried to trust myself and kept my vote on him.

Went to sleep and set an alarm for 4:55AM just to see everyone trying to yeet someone who I didn’t wanna vote for.

The end.

Having played with Lissi a bajillion times, Lissi, for better or for worse, would likely not have fake claimed to that level of detail as she had.

If I look at the Lissi/Glass post, it is imo completely weird that Glass was brought up at all, tbh

beancat had brought me up because he had thought my post was problematic

but his only mention of glass prior was wondering about glass/magnus (and ig answering her question from when she pointed out his quote, which should be something positive)

I kinda wonder if this is his way of trying to acknowledge his question about the validity of glass/magnus that he brought up before, while also not looking at magnus

@obscurity

Are you out of shots?

I need to know how hard I need to try to live another day so that mafia don’t redirect you

Actually don’t answer that.

*though I guess it could bc N1 neighborhood chat too

since that was glass/me

Do you think one could be a wolf?

Was that revealed at the time?

Like… do I personally think one could be a wolf? Is that what you are asking?

I think it’s unfair to conclude that I’m potentially scum just because I hadn’t claimed at that point. It was 6:30 AM and I had to stay up late because I had questions about the BPV and redirect/roleblock stuff, and I had to wait for Zone to wake up to have my questions answered to know who to target before I went to bed

So…

  • lol claims redirect to his parity check
  • lemon gave BPV to obscurity, but obscurity did not receive it. So Lemon was redirected.
  • no one has claimed redirector

This either means

  • Mafia can redirect 2+ targets in one night
  • There are 2 mafia roles that can each redirect someone each night
  • lol is mafia and lying (since lemon is confirmed town, we’ll just assume she’s telling the truth)

Votecount as of post #2497

Cream (5): Lemonfairy, lol, obscurity, Gyrlander, Leafia
Magnus (3): Glass, Marluna
Marluna (1): Zorvo

Not Voting (3): Magnus, Lissi, Cream

Hold on, I’m going to double-check that. I thought it was a moderror Obscurity cleared up with Zone, I seem to remember them mentioning that.

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I barely had the time to read the thread and reply. I’m like the lowest poster by a long shot. I unfortunately didn’t have the time to do due diligence into your slot.

Most of my reads have been on the fly, and sorta vibes and guesses I make based on circumstantial evidence, since that’s a quicker read. If you notice my wording when I called out the trio of Zorvo/beancat/Magnus, I specified that it wasn’t a strong scumteam guess, and that I just wasn’t vibing there.

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Well I’m still reading the thread, so I may have missed something.