'80s Wild Overhaul FM - TOWN VICTORY

[Leafia]

I’m making my second offer tnight, so from N3 at the latest, I’ll basically be the same as a VT. D3 if my offer is rejected.

[Marluna]

Welcome among the people who have more power than me at D3.

[Leafia]

Thanks.

[Marluna]

I probably overused this sentence already in this game…
I should stop, I think everyone got it at this point.

[Magnus]

And then D4: Marluna is the only player who can vote.

[Lissi]

@beancat

Mixed feelings about this post
I like the first part, since that was indeed a weird thing to point out by Magnus, but the rest of it isnt good
That’s not really an argument u can make, since there’s a wide spectrum of “rolefishiness”, and leafia was right to point it out
Feels like lissi is saying something right about magnus then spending tbe rest of the post after the “but” to turn the accusation

Ungood

I mean you can just skip the first part, Lemon’s statement kinda overcomplicates my thoughts at the time

I just wanted to acknowledge I agreed since it was pretty close by

My main point was just about Leafia’s vote, which I disliked for the reasons I pointed out

i.e. a ton of people talking about protectives/being protectives/other role talk

And Leafia not reacting to the prior talk, so why go after the “mech!spec” that didn’t even literally state “roles”?

Why would you vote Zorvo for doing something that is normal for him (or at least scummy for others but not for him…??? idk what you’re getting at here) when you think my post sticks out to you as the only one that is so problematic?

[Zorvo]

@Magnus

And then D4: Marluna is the only player who can vote.

Then they can just die if that is their ability and they vote over a town member.

[Lissi]

@Lissi

And Leafia not reacting to the prior talk, so why go after the “mech!spec” that didn’t even literally state “roles”?

*also I’m saying this was answered and I get it now

But those were my questions at the time

[Zorvo]

@Lissi

Why would you vote Zorvo for doing something that is normal for him (or at least scummy for others but not for him…??? idk what you’re getting at here) when you think my post sticks out to you as the only one that is so problematic?

Bean votes for me every chance they get every game for some unknown reason.

[Leafia]

@Lissi

Why would you vote Zorvo for doing something that is normal for him (or at least scummy for others but not for him…???

It was how it was going overboard even for him honestly.

@Zorvo

Bean votes for me every chance they get every game for some unknown reason.

I think she was talking about my vote on you. Not Bean’s.

[Marluna]

Even if this happens, I will voteless the next day anyways.

[Lissi]

@Magnus

According to you, Marluna currently has five votes — enough for a soft plurality axe come EOD. Marluna isn’t especially defensive, which I believe is more likely to come from Town than Mafia… and it’s possible your roles exist to cancel each other out if you’re both Town. In worlds where you’re evil, irrespective of Marluna’s role, it seems likely you’re claiming your actual role for credit. There’s possible synergy with the BPV and BPV-vigi, so if you’re creating additional targets for evil that would strongly suggest Leafia/Lol aren’t W/W.

Marluna’s just overall socially suspicious, as I outlined D1. How many votes are needed for supermajority? I’m down for it.

This is another post of yours I don’t get

The first half of your paragraph seems to say Marluna is town? Why is she overall socially suspicious then, and why are you down to exe her then?

And what’s BPV in this context, synergy how?

[Lissi]

@Leafia

I think she was talking about my vote on you. Not Bean’s.

Ah no, it was Bean’s

Since only my post stuck out to him as scummy, I was like… why are you voting Zorvo then, after writing a long post about how you’d burn them with fire if it was anyone else lmao

[Magnus]

Occasionally I tend to ramble my unfiltered thoughts aloud. I wasn’t trying to convince myself that Marluna was undeniably evil, I’m trying to figure out if they are evil. First I asked myself “does it make sense if Marluna is good? Where does my train of thought lead me next?”

Then I asked myself “what if Marluna is evil? I made a case on them D1, I don’t need to repeat myself.” If people are up to use the supermajority mechanic early, I’m fine with it. Although I wonder if we’d have enough people around for a double execution in one day anyway, given D1. We need an execution today anyway, or else a villager dies randomly according to OP.

@Lissi

And what’s BPV in this context, synergy how?

Imagine if Leafia was evil, but her role is legitimate. Borrow someone else’s vote (rendering them voteless during the next day), and give them a bulletproof vest to compensate. In that case, Leafia would inform the Mafia if the trade went through, and the BPV-vigi could shoot them the following night, leading to an easy double kill. Hence, synergy.

[Lissi]

@Leafia

It says if they accept my offer their votecount secretly decreases by one

Didn’t lol know his vote was gone though?

[Marluna]

@Magnus

We need an execution today anyway, or else a villager dies randomly according to OP.

Hmm?
Why you think It’s the case?

[Marluna]

I think she meant on the public VCs.

[Magnus]

@Host_Account_5

• In the event that the sequence of [No Exe → No Death → No Exe] is followed, a random Town will be executed instead.

D1: No execution.
N1: Eliza was reportedly shot by a villager.

[Lissi]

@Magnus

Occasionally I tend to ramble my unfiltered thoughts aloud. I wasn’t trying to convince myself that Marluna was undeniably evil, I’m trying to figure out if they are evil. First I asked myself “does it make sense if Marluna is good? Where does my train of thought lead me next?”

Then I asked myself “what if Marluna is evil? I made a case on them D1, I don’t need to repeat myself.” If people are up to use the supermajority mechanic early, I’m fine with it. Although I wonder if we’d have enough people around for a double execution in one day anyway , given D1. We need an execution today anyway, or else a villager dies randomly according to OP.

Ah, okay

Btw, I am okay with exeing Marluna first today

And if she flips mafia, it’ll help with associations for second exe, I guess

It’s just I don’t know how I feel about all the mafia in the consensus POE (or at least in common with Glass/Leafia/mine) being mostly the lowposters/less present people

So like if I reread Cream today that will be why

[Marluna]

@Magnus

In that case, Leafia would inform the Mafia if the trade went through, and the BPV-vigi could shoot them the following night, leading to an easy double kill. Hence, synergy.

One question.
Why mafia need to wait for the following night?