I have no idea. But Lol wasn’t shot last night, so if Leafia was evil, that’s what would’ve happened.
Last time I checked vigi shooting a player doesn’t equal with No Death.
I’ll go ask the hosts, then, and come back with my findings.
And ah I see BPV = Leafia’s role
I think if you and Lemon wrote the second word out it’d be nice for the future because multiple roles start with BPV
Also, for synergy, it’d be the same with a mafia detector, I think?
I asked Zone and he said that the vig’s shot gets used regardless of success or failure
So I think technically a detector would be useful as a pair with the vig
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But lol didn’t vote on the public VCs…
Like honestly I think it makes more sense if both only got the votes secretly removed/added at EOD, IDK why lol would know especially if it wasn’t announced anyways
That’s how a regular doublevoter works, no? Second vote only counts at EOD?
He does. It just doesn’t show up on the votecount I believe.
I see… got it
He was told the price of accepting my deal by the host.
Ah… wait, so let me repeat this
He sees trade deal:
He gets ???
Other gets his vote
He agrees knowing this
And then said it made him sad?
Or was this just lying to keep the BPV covered?
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lemon prob town since we are guessing that’s where the mafia NK went? (will maybe come back to this near end game)
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obscurity prob town due to way he goes about the roleclaim
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lol prob self resolving and town
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due to Gyrlander’s extraordinary defense of Marluna (and in contrast to Leafia’s opinion), I don’t believe if Marluna is W, then Gyrlander is W too. Very rare that wolves hard defend a scumbuddy who is most assuredly going down. Likely just bus at that point.
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beancat sus
– '80s Wild Overhaul FM - Day 2 (13/14) - #1224 by beancat
– '80s Wild Overhaul FM - Day 2 (13/14) - #1225 by beancat
– Doesn’t make sense that “if it was anyone other than zorvo he’d kill that with fire” but then goes around and votes Zorvo. My interpretation, correct me if I’m wrong, is that “If it were anyone other than Zorvo coming up with that weird theory, than I’d be mega sus of them. But since it’s Zorvo, and Zorvo is known for townie weird theories, it’s more okay.” -
Leafia feeling less good on… or at least more questions in my mind
– why announce that you gave someone a BPV? and make them a mafia target? just feels like lack of foresight if town
– Feeling a bit “sheepy” and agreeable on some posts or points, that it almost feels like W just amplifying town misdirection possibly.
— >Actually double checked on agreeing w/ Glass’s POE. EOD1 and then taking into account new D2 info, Leafia was prob at Gyr/Zorvo/Bean/Marluna so agreeing w/ Glass POE of Gyr/Bean/Marluna/Gorta doesn’t seem that far off. Maybe not on this point.
– Why target lol on N1? At EOD1 ('80s Wild Overhaul FM - Day 2 (13/14) - #891 by Leafia) lol was in null territory. I’m mechanical potato and dunno if it’s better to target someone who you think is town or someone who you think is mafia with Leafia’s role, but I don’t quite understand why she targetted “lol”.
– Why be so eager with outting role on D1?
– Will agree with Glass that the role seems weird if wolf since it can just set up the mafia vig shot. I am mechanical potato though so low trust in myself on this sort of read. -
I still think Glass is town
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Originally I was sus of Marluna on D1 because skimming the games she linked, I think she had more proactiveness as town? But given that she said she was voteless, makes sense that she didn’t even vote D1. I asked her on D1 about her reads because I wanted to see where her mind was at, and I think her response was passable. Her post count here is way inflated above the two games she linked me. Post count isn’t alignment indicative, but generally people post less as wolf, not more.
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Lemon NK (if that’s what we are assuming?) is weird af … I’m still trying to think on it. Did mafia mistakenly assume she was widely townread? I think at least 1 mafia is relatively active, or else if all mafia were low in reads, they would have shot at someone who had more thread control, or at least feel more threatened by it. From the NK, it doesn’t feel like mafia really feel threatened, and they have the luxury to make weird kills.
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Magnus I dunno. He’s there. He posts. Goes in one ear and out the other unfortunately. Good town? Or good wolf masquerading as good town? Says nothing objectionable in my mind. If wolf, fear this is one of those “posts just enough to be reasonable and not die” sort of people.
Gotta go… I am very sorry for my low activity but will try to at the very least vote w/ majority by end of day.
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VOTE: Beancat
most questions in post above are just related to your role, and as the resident mechanical potato, I just ask you be patient with me in this area lol
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Correct.
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Ah okay. Understood.
got it
Cream’s new wall has so many overlapping thoughts with me and I think the ones I hadn’t thought of (i.e. Marluna, lol targetted by Leafia) sound pretty good!
I think that does alleviate some of my doubts that maybe I was missing stuff with surface-level (for Cream XD) towny thoughts that weren’t thought as much about due to the low quantity/condensation of thoughts from being busy
We had a death N1. Due to vig.
Possible.
Because I wanted to clear up the misconception that there was a votestealer and why announce it in thread if I’m scum? Actually, I can answer that one. So that I could ask that question.
I targeted him D1. I select my target during the day and he claimed protective so I figured I’d give him a BPV just in case.
As for whether it’s better for me to target town or mafia, both have valid arguments.
That’s how I am as town most of the time unfortunately. Remember how I claimed masons as a mason D1 in Kaguya?
Anyway, going to call it a night now, so good night everyone. 
Right so I guess on quick ISO read, I think I’m comfortable with Cream town right now after all
Her thoughts do seem in tune with the thread
And she is keeping track of stuff
Like on D1, she originally thought Gyr was a bit towny for tone but then later saw that he was still voting beancat for a silly reason and then was like, that’s weird
Mmm so I think I will go pull up my Magnus post response from last night so I can make my point there too now
It will be paraphrased so it’s all good
Where’s this?
Why have I signed up/participating in for like a total of like 7 games of FM currently?