Oh. You’re here. Good
yep
what’s up
I don’t particularly understand this
About half of these slots are, by most means, the people who have done the most this game; achro, myself and mac, arctic, and lol
Can you elaborate further on those reads, please.
Nah i’m hazard.
Its day 1. let me have some fun before shit gets serious
Achro imo didn’t do That much (this is maybe arguable) and pigeon has done nothing
you/Mac and Arctic have done stuff which is why it’s “a lot of” rather than “my entire”
lol has a lot of posts but like 80% of them are useless
+ the slots that (imo) have Done Less are also the ones at the vague-only-semi-sorted bottom
Achro imo didn’t do That much (this is maybe arguable) and pigeon has done nothing
you/Mac and Arctic have done stuff which is why it’s “a lot of” rather than “my entire”
Can you elaborate on these three in particular, then
It’s a blanket statement that feels like it’s more trying to provide opinions on the “not incredibly polarized players who post a lot” for that reason
can you rephrase, I’m confused about what you’re asking about
can you give actual reads on me arc and pigeon
more specifically, the slots overall
if I had to pick
- you’re >rand v, random not-super-gutsy scum players are more likely to TMI me v when than to go after me in most circumstances and I don’t have reason to believe you’re a Gutsy Scum Player. I am choosing to ignore Mac’s posts for determining his alignment because I suck at reading Mac (I think I’ve misread him in literally every game we’ve played together)
- Arctic wolf for reasons I explained in the big post of reasons why I don’t trust him
- Pigeonslot is … complicated. I was genuinely-uneasy about how Achro was treating my slot but I also figured that (given the complete lack of protection in this setup) he was almost certainly just dying n1 if he was town and he didn’t have to worry about it – I was trying to make sure this would happen by shitposting about how much I would suspect him if he didn’t die in a deliberately ingenuine-looking way. I’ve actually felt a little better about Pigeon’s handful of posts, he seems genuinely confused/lost, but that’s a weak basis for a read.
these are obviously not very confident, otherwise you’d’ve been in a more confident position on my readlist
Arctic wolf for reasons I explained in the big post of reasons why I don’t trust him
- on a ~nebulous vibes~ level your play feels like Bland and Flavorless Mountainous, in which I basically spent the entire game fourthimpostering for you. I don’t want that to happen again.
- relatedly, the downside of treating you with caution if you’re actually town is minimal. the downside of treating you as locktown if you’re actually mafia is high.
- there are points in your Iso where it feels like you know you’re talking to a villager. I think this is a minor point, since the main person you’re treating that way is Zorvo, who is obvious town - but it still rubs me the wrong way.
- the least unreliable reading method I have for you is to look at the accuracy of your pushes, since you tend strongly towards powerwolfing. as I’ve started to doubt lol being scum, I’ve gotten more worried about the world where he’s a villager and you’re just taking the free zero-accountability misyeet (since, like, no one can blame you if you miss on lol)
- the thing I said earlier about you feeling soulless - maybe a better term would be ‘passionless’
- you talk a big game about cooperation but you aren’t, really, trying to cooperate with other people, at least not in a way that goes both ways.
- more vibes
this post, obviously
as was said shortly after, this is a large vibelist
how confident are you on his slot
Pigeonslot is … complicated. I was genuinely-uneasy about how Achro was treating my slot but I also figured that (given the complete lack of protection in this setup) he was almost certainly just dying n1 if he was town and he didn’t have to worry about it – I was trying to make sure this would happen by shitposting about how much I would suspect him if he didn’t die in a deliberately ingenuine-looking way. I’ve actually felt a little better about Pigeon’s handful of posts, he seems genuinely confused/lost, but that’s a weak basis for a read.
achro had genuine emotion to mac i think he would’ve taken as scum, in comparsion to throwing it up
i feel like you’re largely ignoring all semblance of emotion both mac/achro had, which i think makes both slots far more likely to be villager then not
i feel like you’re largely ignoring all semblance of emotion both mac/achro had
which
with one of your cases being on the vibes you felt on a player
it feels especially off
how confident are you on his slot
not very
achro had genuine emotion to mac i think he would’ve taken as scum, in comparsion to throwing it up
i feel like you’re largely ignoring all semblance of emotion both mac/achro had, which i think makes both slots far more likely to be villager then not
I don’t really agree
I think Mac’s emotions are largely fakeable and that he is not the sort of person who would remotely hesitate to fake emotions for strategic advantage
and I think Achro’s emotions were real, but NAI – regardless of alignment I think he was upset at the way Mac was treating him, especially since (apparently) he regards him as a friend
I think Mac’s emotions are largely fakeable and that he is not the sort of person who would remotely hesitate to fake emotions for strategic advantage
perhaps its the fact that i know for dead certain it was not, but from posts like this
I’m certainly not beating myself up over it i just dont feel the specific need to work through the friction that keeps being generated as a result of my presence nor having my personality criticised for playing a mafia game a certain way
All good I probably overreacted. Im quite conscious of myself. I take the game somewhat seriously but my approach also is quite fluid and easy for me to engage so it comes out confidently and overwhelms people sometimes. People often think I’m redlining emotionally when I’m literally just doing the things I do.
People who are sensitive in their own ways quite often just don’t deal well with my brute force way of doing things and it tilts them. I genuinely try to pick up on it and lower my intensity but achro is someone I tactically chose not to do that towards literally because he appears to be invincible in this community and I thought i was doing everyone a favour holding him more accountable than he usually is, including him.
I think you were just trying to be playful as you say but hit a very specific nerve of mine with your choice of words because I really try a lot to manage the emotions of people i play with, and have my own struggles managing my own and get particularly disheartened when i think I’m doing a particularly good job not overstepping boundaries and still seem to be or get told I am. It just demotivates me greatly when that happens. Like I tried you know. And the last thing I want to do is have everyone’s hero quit a game because of me.
I really don’t see how you get that impression
out of curiosity, have you ever played with Mac before?
i have not.
this is the same alt i used in dicey dungeons
my friend Agent48 will though
you were at the end of game, though i don’t blame you too much for forgetting
i would assume you have quotes to prove me wrong on mac, then?
shoot.
I knew who you were I just couldn’t remember if it was public knowledge (and I don’t know if you’ve played with Mac before)
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/34821-Swag-City-Invitational
read like the entire end of his iso
oh i finally got approved on mu neat
one moment