April Showers The Third - DAY 3 (13/16)

[Starboy]

Hello everyone

@Host_Account_1

SMILEY reveals its own role!
(rolecard)

Does this site’s definition of Non-bastard include falsely revealed information? If it does we can essientally ignore smiley. If it’s not controlled by any players I see no motivation one way or the other to allow it to win. If we happen to sweep the mafia team fast enough then horary, we did what we aimed to anyways.

@Marluna

VOTE: Jarek

Did you reead the rest of the Neutral’s abilities?
it’s pretty pro-town.

I find it interesting, and a little wolfy, that Marluna would first point out that the neutral has town sided abilities as a reason not to kill it, rather than the more obvious (atleast to myself) reason that its simply a wasted kill. Even if it had no abilities I would not want to kill it instead of a potiental suspect.

@Jarek

Yeah my vote isn’t a serious one unless there’s evidence later to prove that they have hidden ulterior motives that indicate they are in fact evil

This makes sense to me.

@Leafia

Also, by D2, a player besides myself will know exactly what my ability is and yes I do get to pick who it is. I’ll be picking the villageriest player alive. That’s all I dare say about my ability for now.

I’m willing to skip evaluating Leafia until this occurs. I don’t think villagers will get much benefit from any form of disscussing this, letting Leafia pick on their own gives us the most insight into their alignment.

@ElizaThePsycho

bitch you’ve made 10 that is WELL into read territory

I appriciate Willow effectively skipping RVS here, Jarek aswell gave town something to talk about and got the game going, and I think it is slightly town aligning for the both of them.

@Chomps

yeaa but where’s the fun of not putting pressure anywhere

Did chomps intend a naked vote to be pressure? Pressure doesn’t just come from votes existing in space all alone, they need something more to go with it.

@Chomps

VOTE: Canping

they quickly move it but it seems odd to call it pressure still.

@Rhea

(big long wall post)

I notice that almost everything Rhea points out, they call “villagery” with the small exception of the first 2 posts and some neutral thoughts on Marluna. I found it difficult to get much of anything from these early posts, especially anything that would direct me to vote in a paticular direction, so its reassuring to see someone else on the same page.

@Rhea

I am preparing an opening post, but I would like to separate out any questions I find myself having so that they do not get lost.

Also I’m stealing this idea

[Starboy]

@soweli

i think? I don’t know i might be placebo’ing it and also I did read the whole thread but don’t think i gained anything from it; i do have another person i’m considering voting (ooh spooky!!!)

What do you mean by you “might be placebo’ing”? I have some other thoughts on this post noted down but I would like clarification first, posting them would spoil the read

[Starboy]

@Leafia

All in all, I’m getting villagery vibes from Rhea right now. Townlean.

Is there any reason for this beyond “Vibes”? I personally agreed with their view of threadstate

[Marluna]

@Starboy

would first point out that the neutral has town sided abilities as a reason not to kill it, rather than the more obvious (atleast to myself) reason that its simply a wasted kill.

Well.
It would be literally a wasted kill for mafia as well. It (Killing a neutral benign on itself) doesn’t help them getting closer to the victory. (Unless it becomes a kingmaker for the opposition, but this neutral specifically can’t even do that.) So I didn’t feel a reason to pinpoint someone as scummy simply for that reason.

But if you read the Neutrals ability, it definetly has townsided abilities, so town has way less reasons to execute it than the scums.

[Marluna]

Also was it really that obvious for everyone beside myself that Jarek was joking?

[Canping]

yeah, i personally think it was just a meme vote, the comments they’ve made after the vote does actually support the idea it is a joke.

@Jarek

@Host_Account_1

Despite not being controlled by any player, you still count as a player for targeting and voting purposes.

aww hell yeah free kill!

VOTE: SMILEY

@Jarek

Won’t be smiling for very long

@Jarek

Selfish behaviour is the best behaviour

@Jarek

well what are the odds it decides to affect me, I mean if it does then suddenly smiley is my best friend and I’ll lock in to help them win but if they don’t benefit me specifically then I don’t like them

@Jarek

Yeah my vote isn’t a serious one unless there’s evidence later to prove that they have hidden ulterior motives that indicate they are in fact evil

Though believe me executing what amounts to an NPC in this game would make me laugh

^this also prove they care about possibility smiley ends up evil at some point, if its due to a player

jarek seems town

[Canping]

@soweli can you explain the vote on me

[Canping]

oops sorry you already did

[Canping]

why are some of you nitpicking that it certainly isnt AI only 1 or 2 posts out of my other posts? this is just clutching on straws

@Canping

you mean “smiley”?

this right here is just me wanting to confirm if its smiley or the hydra, i completely ignored the host post about smileys role card at that time.

@Canping

chomps usually voting hydras for memes early game? i see

This also is just me talking nonsense to myself, its like adding a check note about chomps that i clearly did not know voting hydras early game is a constant behaviour for chomps

However, pointing out my posts doesn’t really help in some case, is a valid opinion if that is what you are on about.

[Canping]

@Rhea

Inexplicably, I find this post wolfy. I believe it is due to the sense of meaningless correction here, as it forms an assertion of game-knowledge without any actual productivity.

That is only the 3rd post of the day and im not sure if assertion of game-knowledge makes anyone in particular wolfy

[Marluna]

Okay.
The last 3 posts happened after my vote.

Should I have really realized it’s a joke from the first two posts, that it’s a meme?
Or am I just gultified via everyone else’s opinion after Jarek explained it is a joke?

(And everyone literally missing my post later, that I didn’t understand it as a joke at that time…)

[Canping]

thats typical jarek opening, so its probably townh

[Canping]

Yeah i know i added them like they also makes it clear that it wasnt serious

[Canping]

its fine, you wanted to know if you were the only one that interpreted that vote as a serious one, i am telling you that since i knew it was for the memes, you have one less option now

[Canping]

@Marluna

Should I have really realized it’s a joke from the first two posts, that it’s a meme?

there isnt really an answer for this, as if you should or shouldn’t.

@Marluna

Or am I just gultified via everyone else’s opinion after Jarek explained it is a joke?

Probably not. But does it give an impression? No.

[Canping]

but i can say it was clear even before the vote for my part

[Starboy]

@Marluna

Well.
It would be literally a wasted kill for mafia as well. It (Killing a neutral benign on itself) doesn’t help them getting closer to the victory. (Unless it becomes a kingmaker for the opposition, but this neutral specifically can’t even do that.) So I didn’t feel a reason to pinpoint someone as scummy simply for that reason.

It kills itself on Day 4

@Host_Account_1

At the end of Day 4, you will die.

[Marluna]

I know, but before that, it helps town more, than mafia.
It’s a way more important info, than killing it being a wasted kill. (At least for me.)

[Starboy]

While I personally immediately pinned it as a joke, I don’t think anyone is wrong for not having realized it.

[Starboy]

Perhaps I’m too used to mountainous, but I would be nearly equally suspicious if someone attempted to seriously suggest voting “Sleep” as “Smiley”