April Showers The Third - DAY 4 (10/16)

[Heiter]

pamdora*

[Heiter]

fufck

[Leafia]

@Frostwolf103

Leafia also believed the attack happened on you and was successful in preventing this.

I literally never said anything of the sort Frost.

@Rhea

I roleblocked Heiter last night with an item. I believe that is why the kill was stopped. Leafia’s ability also could have stopped a kill. If neither of these things were it, the kill was stopped by some as-of-yet unrevealed role.

If Kiiruma was the one that tried killing that is.

So I doubt it.

@ElizaThePsycho

leafia’s mechanically claimed action is wolf there’s no shot. leafia is just wolf

It literally isn’t and I never claim this early as a wolf. Something that you well know. I also would be far more active if I was a wolf.

@ElizaThePsycho

because its anti claim , not anti role
also, you said that it was obvious to you who sent the message, as opposed to actually knowing
imo there’s high odds you actually have mechanical information suggesting who sent it that you are withholding because you’re wolf, just based on these posts

I’m aware of that and I wouldn’t be withholding it if I was a wolf. I would announce it in the thread so the person could be anticlaimed without painting me as a wolf.

It’s what the message said that told me who sent it. What it said made it blatently obvious and you’re acting extremely wolfy right now Willow.

@ElizaThePsycho

targeting kiiruma because she wasn’t sure about his alignment

If you had my role you would’ve done the same thing if you were a villager.

@Marluna

this is just stupid question…
How would you know anti-claim can happen during the day, if you weren’t mafia?
VOTE: Leafia

I don’t know thay. I’m just assuming it might be able to. It’s not always night only Marluna. People aren’t even stopping to think or use logic any more.

@Marluna

It’s not really blind.

It literally is blind and how is wanting to be read as a villager ever AI?

@Jarek

I don’t mean to put myself in the line of fire here, but if you roleblocked heiter, wouldn’t your choice be between killing me or pandora?

Since when were you Heiter?

Everyone, let’s resolve the mechanical stuff before going into blind exeing.

@Marluna

It’s just so misleading. And as far I know, town Leafia sticks to her claims, and defuses (or at least tries to) the incorrect reads on themself before just simply changing the perspektive on her previous messages.
It just doesn’t feel like Town Leafia for me.

I literally am sticking to my claims here Marluna.

I literally never said anything made me 100% town. Please stop putting words into my mouth.

Unfortunately I think Marluna is just a tunneled wolfsiding villager right now.

@Rhea

I am specifically concerned about Leafia because I cannot quite get a handle on the exact moment she changed her mind about Kiiruma’s alignment. She was sure Kiiruma and Starboy were V/V or W/W for reasons I found rather shaky to begin with, then Starboy flipped V. She should have townread Kiiruma in theory. Of course, since her initial reasons for pairing the two were shaky, I would understand if she came around on that read… but she seemed to “start softening on Kiiruma” no less than three separate times this morning, which is odd. One would think she would only change her mind once.

I literally have only changed my mind once. I went from wolfreading him to considering that I could be wrong in thinking he’s a wolf to thinking he’s likely a villager.

@pandora

i count the number of visits my targets GET, not make

I’m not buying this for a nanosecond. Zone makes sure we all understand our roles perfectly before the game begins.

@Heiter

im visiting you tonight good luck

So you can visit while dead? Pretty sure you’ll be the D2 execution here.

[Leafia]

The sudden wagon on me reads to me like an attempt by the wolves to push me over to save Heiter. Because no one has any real reason to scumread me and Marluna, I never said I thought the anticlaim could be used during the day. Stop putting words into my mouth alread y and read through my iso and try finding where I said anything about being 100% town due to my ability or thinking the anticlaim can be done during the day.

[Leafia]

Calling it a night now too so good night everyone.

[Jarek]

UNVOTE

hm

[Jarek]

@Leafia

Since when were you Heiter?

If heiter was roleblocked…yada yada…then I’m the unaccounted for one, not heiter.

[Jarek]

Do you count as your own visitor

[Marluna]

@Creature

What are all claimed stuff so far?

pandora watches 3 people, counting how many people visited them. (at least from the last iteration, this is their claim.) Rhea’s info contradict pandora’s [I don’t know if it still holds true after pandora’s claim change.]

Rhea got a roleblocker item, which was used on Heiter.
Jarek can’t visit people.
I (Marluna) visited exactly 1 person N1.
Heiter visited no one on N1.

Leafia visited Kiiruma. (and Rhea also knows what this ability did.)
Leafia got a message from someone.
Leafia’s rolename turned into grey.

Let me know if I’m missing someone’s claim.

[Marluna]

@pandora

i count the number of visits my targets GET, not make

Yeah. it is a lot less useful than the Tracker variant. You need to claim from literally everyone to figure out, if anyone is lying.
While we thought it was a tracker, we only needed the output from us three to see a discrepency.

[soweli]

ok unironically why do you think anti-claim is instant like I’ve only seen it being done at nighttime

[soweli]

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

@Leafia

I’m aware of that and I wouldn’t be withholding it if I was a wolf. I would announce it in the thread so the person could be anticlaimed without painting me as a wolf.

… that’s what you did

[Frostwolf103]

Chomps is suppose to find it himself

[Frostwolf103]

@Leafia

Good. Rhea survive

Suppose that’s what I thought of that way

[Frostwolf103]

@pandora

i count the number of visits my targets GET, not make

Reckon that items do count?

(Also yeah there is no way Rhea receive item and use it at same time)

[Frostwolf103]

@Leafia

If Kiiruma was the one that tried killing that is.

So I doubt it

Kiiruma can be also protected, also I don’t see mafia would feign a failed attack by attacking Rhea since you are the person to proclaim TP ON RHEA and think the mafia would test their luck?

You said you are happy Rhea survived thus I take your word for it but…would the mafia do that

[Marluna]

@Leafia

I’m just assuming it might be able to

The way you worded your question, it didn’t sound like it was assuming. It was like you were expecting to be happen during the day. and since pandora’s claim was false, it’s a natural think to assume that mafia tried to anti-claim, but failed. Hence your confusion.

[Frostwolf103]

Say marluna, Rhea received a item at end of night, she use it on Heiter…how’s that possible in one night?

[Frostwolf103]

And also yes, Zone make us understand our roles before our start.

(This can still happen)