Binary Stars Hydra JoaT10 - Town wins!

[AerieRaffles]

~Raffles

[Monochromatic]

You think that’s unpairing?

Look I drive the driver’s seat a lot in games if you’ve got meta on derp and you’re certain we can light that fuse I don’t always have to be alpha dog, but may has acted like I think scum may would trying to change things up

-A

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

[quote=“BostonFlours, post:488, topic:4414, full:true”]
Anyway I’m not going to get distracted I’m not I’m going to focus so much on the game and aaaaall of the players in it and I won’t be distracted. At all. By anything or anyone. I’m so good at mafia

If my whole strategy is to work here, which I believe I promised Suit Guy it was, so I’ve got the burden of proof to carry here, it should mean we get basic reads on everyone else in the game. Let’s test that theory!

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:39, topic:4414”]

@terranceleehew

also the SOD is way slower than I was anticipating

-derp
[/quote]

@Monochromatic

VOTE: terranceleehew

First scum locked onto pew pew

Absolutely not
VOTE: Monochromatic

Thiiis is interesting, and I think it’s not W/W with Terrance, from what I’ve seen. That’d be quite a lot.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:51, topic:4414”]

@BostonFlours

First of all, he opened with a post containing no fewer than fifteen grammatical errors. I’m not one to be picky, but it feels like an overly-heavyhanded projection of confidence, something that’s very… unnatural, to me. This post (or at least, its unedited original) reads like me going “okay, you’re scum, don’t freak out, just sound as casual as possible”
[/quote]

Okay, but I also hate this
You’re acting as if you have meta on Achro but he makes typos every game
Like, it’s actually the first thing I noticed about Achro other than him being a One Piece fan – his constant typos
you are just wrong about this.

~Raffles

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:57, topic:4414”]

@AerieRaffles

Guava overeacting? i’m shocked

~Aerie
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Do you not think that’s scummy?

@Monochromatic

It is really that you took the time to note sod is slow but not respond to my question which is meant to get the ball rolling.

With this reasoning?
When people already pointed out that this looks like rolefishing, giving a reasonable reason to not respond?
Like, yeah, I overreact, but I don’t think I’m doing that right now. That certainly doesn’t look good , it looks like Achro using his reputation of having consistently good reads as town to autopush a random townie for posting something that’s, in my opinion, obviously NAI (like, seriously, he just said “man people aren’t posting a lot huh”)
but if you think I’m overreacting you can move our vote
~Raffles

The conversation between hydra partners here feels a little unnatural to my eye - it’s this weird, casual shade that I’m not sure people would… want to resolve in public? I can see this being a weird sort of wolf theatre with Achro. I don’t know how much it holds up if Achro is town … ehh, thinking about it, I think it’s still wolfy there, it’s two people pointedly choosing to play up their dissonance about a pivotal slot that they know they probably won’t survive directly scumreading.

@AerieRaffles

Okay, but how does she(?) play as town? And how does that contrast with this game?

Because she’s definitely different from how she played in the other hydra, but is this also different from her town gameplay? Because if it’s similar to her town gameplay then… Occam’s Razor, yeah?
~Raffles

I’m supposed to like when people post about me, but this one is throwing my brain into the salad and tossing it. I get… what it’s saying, the phrasing just doesn’t track to me. My townplay is an enigma and my ego is massive.

@AerieRaffles

actually i kinda agree, aknowledging it without wanting to defend themselves

~aries

Inch resting agreement here. It involves three slots, and I feel like there should be some partnership reads in here, but I’m too sleepy for it. I “kinda” agree? Hm.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:97, topic:4414”]

@terranceleehew

I don’t think mono is scum for what it’s worth

-derp
[/quote]

Why not?
~Raffles

Tunnelly. Weird to my eye.

@AerieRaffles

this is literally so different from any Achro gameplay I’ve encountered but I don’t want to hammer because I want everyone to at least have a chance to speak before we end day and we’re less than 1.5 hours in (the predicted amount of migraines from Neon/Marluxion)

~Raffles

This interaction fascinates me as well, because it’s a sort of misinterpretation of the tone of a joke? It’s the kind of thing that involves a few layers of misunderstanding that should have flesh to them, but I just woke up… ugh. I think the misinterpretation could happen whether this slot is town or wolf. NAI for now until I know the alignment of one of the involved slots.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:187, topic:4414”]

@terranceleehew

Did you just unironiclly go out of your way to say you didn’t want to hammer like an hour into the first day

LOL
-derp
[/quote]

Do you disagree with not hammering right now?
~Raffles

Not W/W.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:203, topic:4414”]

@terranceleehew

No it’s the way you said it like you want to hammer but only won’t because like others haven’t played lol

-derp
[/quote]

And what about it
If everyone else comes into the thread and I’m like “that’s all townreading to me” and Monochromatic is scumreading to me then I have no qualms with voting them out early aside from “I talk less and I don’t like having to shut up”
Though, Aerie may feel differently
~Raffles

Towny.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:214, topic:4414”]

@SquidSisters

or at least a mentality that’s more focused on looking town
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If I wanted to look town why would I say that
Like it’s my genuine mindset but I can also acknowledge that hammering is objectively scummy 99% of the time
it doesn’t mean I’m going to avoid it 100% of the time always because sometimes it’s useful (or funny)
~Raffles

Towny.

@AerieRaffles

Raffles isn’t mafia they’re just self centered

• Aerie

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:216, topic:4414”]

@AerieRaffles

Raffles isn’t mafia they’re just self centered

• Aerie
  [/quote]

HEY
~Raffles

@AerieRaffles

i’m right

~Aerie

Wolfy.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:221, topic:4414”]

@terranceleehew

That felt

Weird

-derp
[/quote]

me when I send my discord dms with Kanave to show you the meta of our conversations with each other
~Raffles

Unaligned.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:233, topic:4414”]

@SquidSisters

im willing to vote anyone if it means they die immediately

im not sure if eliza approves of this however. i will not wait until shes asleep to try and hammer.
[/quote]

I thought this was Eliza posting
~Raffles

@AerieRaffles

eliza wouldn’t take that bold a stance

~Aerie

Unaligned.

@AerieRaffles

Orochimeowru’s first post is like so much nonsense

All the languages in the world And you chose to speak nonsense
Anyway I don’t like that they made this long post with basically nothing to say instead of using that time reading the other posts in the thread
~Raffles

@AerieRaffles

Well disregard that last post LMAO

~Raffles

Interesting read. Noting it down. Don’t think they’d pivot so fast and blatantly on a wolfbuddy?

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:259, topic:4414”]

@Orochimeowru

From my understanding, at this point in the game, you are scumreading Monochromatic. How convinced were you that he was scum at this point? Like… confidence level in your read?
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it’s not that I’m super confident in my read (I’m confident but it’s not lockwolf or anything), but if Monochomatic ends up being my only scumread when everyone has spoken and I’m townreading everyone else they can die and we’ll see what happens, y’know?

@Orochimeowru

For some reason, I feel a strange incongruous discrepancy between the strength of your read and your willingness to hammer Monochromatic if it weren’t for the fact that most people hadn’t posted. Only point of concern I have in your posting thus far.

That’s because there is a discrepancy, kind of
I should be more confident in my read
and I will be more confident the more people come into the thread if I think the people who come into the thread are town
The more people I see in thread and go “okay that’s town,” the more likely I’m right about Monochromatic being a wolf, right?
so the more people that come into the thread, the stronger my read is gonna get, unless someone comes in and does some wack ass suspicious shit
~Raffles

Hhhhhm. Unaligned with Monochromatic, I think.

[quote=“AerieRaffles, post:260, topic:4414”]

@Orochimeowru

Pick someone I should make a post on next:

• terrance
• leafiabutworse
• squid
• monochromatic
• a 0 poster LOL
  [/quote]

Terranceleelaw
~Raffles

Tunnelly, still unaligned.

@AerieRaffles

@Orochimeowru

What is your read on Terrence? (After all, I am your loyal follower for today and need to sheep you.)
[/quote]

Outside of Monochromatic, terranceleehew is the pair I’m least confident is town
both sides of the pair asked a random question in thread and it felt… off
it’s different from the entrance post nonsense of you or SquidSisters
Derp tends to respond to questions with “idk” or “gut” which makes it hard to follow their thought process
if I have to vote between them and another person I’m townreading, my vote will probably go there just on the fact that sometimes I cannot find out where their head is at because even they don’t know
~Raffles

I’m bored I’m gonna draw a conclusion now.

I think this slot is uhhh about =rand wolf from what I’ve seen so far, which is normal enough this early in the game, and they’ve got a few interactions down which I can make decent alignment reads off of. Chasing them as a potential wolf this early on seems unproductive, and I’d like to see where their interactions with the Terrance slot end up leading.

Their interactions with Achro specifically have decent meat to them, but I think I need more information on the general state and tone of this game to understand in which direction they’re actually aligned - games with lots of bussing have a detectable vibe to them.

I’ve got to go get actual work done today, so I don’t have time to iso anyone else at the moment - I don’t want to vote this slot right now from what I’ve seen, so I’ll follow them onto Terrance to figure out exactly what’s going on over there.

VOTE: Terranceleehew

i’m not even joking

[Monochromatic]

I think trying to unpair people based off votes this early in the game is asking for false positives
-A

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

oh god i fucked the quote

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

the only mention of derps is that they are following kanave onto derps
a horrible reason to vote a scum mate and makes no sense
if they’re your scum mate you know exactly what they have done wrong and where to poke and prod

[Orochimeowru]

Fair enough.

Just had an odd feeling when I saw your scum team match exactly the top 2 wagons.

[BostonFlours]

Hey I’m still backscrolling bc i have a lil time right now but i am curious why you assume one of two wolves would immediately tunnel super duper hard and draw suspicion unnecessarily, Achro (and everyone else who thinks we’re bad)
(For the record if May tried to do that as wolf I would scream harder than “detective come out” (May knows what this means but just know it would be loud screaming))

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

also achro i dont really care if you’re taking the lead or not i just dont think this looks like a w/w pair
so i’m having to figure out if i’m the one who’s wrong or if you are

if you disagree and still think they can be partnered that’s fine i’m just showing you the red flags that currently concern me

[SonicAndKnuckles]

i have a cold nooo mild inconvenience head hurty nose stuffy grrr im gonna do nothing now !!!

[SquidSisters]

first hydra to ever be fully replaced for inactivity

[Monochromatic]

Admittedly at present I have two reads that I think could be scum and since it is day 1 I am not REALLY trying to say “this is paired” so much as “I don’t think its unpaired”

Like if we flip one and it’s a wolf then I’d probably think on it differently.

Which is why I am asking for degrees of confidence on Derp

-A

[BostonFlours]

I’ve told them about “investigator come out” multiple times because I think it’s the funniest thing in the world. So if any of them remember that, they’ll know what you’re talking about

[SonicAndKnuckles]

personally i dont think dota has an exam he has been gaming all day

he probably signed up and got bored waiting so hes gonna afk till like d2

[Monochromatic]

Because May was frozen solid last scum game and one of the best ways to not appear frozen is huff and puff and blow Achro’s house down.

-A

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

does this literally need to be addressed today and right now

no
but i want to win this game by the latest d2 to send a message

also nothing else important is being discussed really, unless you care about lol/dota/both having a cold

[BostonFlours]

Oh okay then you all know exactly how loud i would be screaming at May rn

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

i mean
if this were a year and a half ago i’d be at 100%

but it’s been a long time since he’s played here or with me so i have to take into account the passage of time

[Monochromatic]

@Orochimeowru

Boston + Derps feels very boring and in-line with game state which is… um… conventional. Conventional always feels wrong to me, like wolf sheeping status quo.

Cream. I literally just got lectured about not scumreading anyone who scumreads me. THIS IS LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE OF MY RAISON D’ÊTRE.

–still. I get where he comes from. We won’t get anything if everyone mobs me; our reads would become worthless if everyone just says to focus fire on one person. Still, that isn’t what’s happening right now.

Half of all players are on Boston or Derps, but the other half are not. They are already voting the people they suspect. (Aside from the two slankers I suppose, but that’s besides my point.)

@SquidSisters

first hydra to ever be fully replaced for inactivity

*looks at BigFooled*
It’s rather impressive that they’re so inactive, that you forgot about their existence.

- Zone

[SonicAndKnuckles]

marl is gonna misvote 2 times in a row then get killed and get roasted in dead chat calling it here