Binary Stars Hydra JoaT10 - Town wins!

[Orochimeowru]

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

1. How do you get from solidly believing that Boston and Terrance are not W/W :

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@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

why is derps voting boston if boston is scum

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

they aren’t even like
interacting at all
if the goal was to distance

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

the only mention of derps is that they are following kanave onto derps
a horrible reason to vote a scum mate and makes no sense
if they’re your scum mate you know exactly what they have done wrong and where to poke and prod

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

also achro i dont really care if you’re taking the lead or not i just dont think this looks like a w/w pair
so i’m having to figure out if i’m the one who’s wrong or if you are

if you disagree and still think they can be partnered that’s fine i’m just showing you the red flags that currently concern me

To then still putting Boston as a partner for Derps if Derps is mafia?

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@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

if derps is not town it could be boston or cream as the partner i think

This derps worldbuild read does not feel genuine or I don’t understand it:

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@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

if derps is town i’m leaning one of kanave / cream as the partner for boston

if derps is not town it could be boston or cream as the partner i think

Monochromatic asks why I would be partnered and your answer is essentially just down to “haven’t ruled it out” and “hard to sort” … which is totally fine in and of itself…

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@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

just that they aren’t unpartnered with boston or derps
content wise they are nice and neat and seem to be in order but that doesn’t really do very much for me in the long run

Except for the fact that if we are listed purely because of “haven’t seen evidence to the contrary” then where are all the other people you haven’t ruled out yet from not being Derps’ scumbuddy?

Like AerieRaffles here:

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@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

not-impossible
one of the pairings i have explicitly not ruled out
would not explain the may weirdness though

Your solving here lacks vigor IMO.

I think the Neon head also still scumreads Boston despite the Marl head thinking Boston and Terrance are not W/W (#828). Hydra dissonance? If it is, how are you guys working through it?

2. Regarding your comment on us playing nice and neat, and that not really doing much for you in the long run, what is your approach to solving our slot then? I don’t think Psyx and I will ever come off particularly unpaired with people purely due to how we play, so you will likely need to rely on other sorts of reads, which I do not see you making thus far.

[Orochimeowru]

@LeafiabutWorse

• Neon/Marl, when I looked at the past game from marl and his posting style here it just made me think “yeah this guys town.” I am threatened by marl if he is a wolf but I also feel like he would be playing this game a bit differently if he was. I’d look into him more if the sdap hydra (terranceleehaw) is town but I dont think that to be the case

I am trying to sort Neon/Marl and I do not think Neon/Marl is solidly town. Can you expand on your reasoning here? Like, what would you be expecting if Marl was wolf here? In what way is he threatening as a wolf? How much experience do you have playing against town!Marl and wolf!Marl? What is the historical accuracy of your Marl read? Is your reasoning for townreading Marl mostly meta based? Thoughts on what I posted above?

[Orochimeowru]

Urgh my stomach hurts.

Cream end.

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

You’re missing the point that I don’t think Aerith and Derps are partnered there

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

Also hi Marl awake. I have a very needy cat purring on my face

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

@Orochimeowru

To then still putting Boston as a partner for Derps if Derps is mafia?

That post was before I came to the conclusion that they aren’t the full scumteam

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

@Orochimeowru

Hydra dissonance? If it is, how are you guys working through it?

We will talk about it, probably in thread, as if we are currently playing a game of mafia, which we are

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

Neon and I have had no private communication so far so our reads are mostly entirely our own

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

I’m pretty sure there is exactly one wolf, no more and no less, between Derps and AerithRuffles

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

(also I say ‘mostly’ because while we haven’t privately discussed our reads I am still paying attention to Neons reads and taking them into account. IE, if they didn’t seem so sure on Jaidenliza being town I would not have removed Jaidenliza from my PoE today because they’ve been mostly null to me. Just an example of what I mean)

[AerieRaffles]

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

@AerieRaffles

people were LITERALLY TRYING TO HAMMER

They should have done it. No guts no glory.

Now look at us… look at this mess. We could’ve been past this.

Okay but I wanted to hear more voices and between you and Orochimeowru I’m not disappointed with what I’ve heard from the people who hadn’t spoken when Monochromatic was L-2

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

@AerieRaffles

Then keep you’re vote on me and you’ll see that unfortunately I’m not a wolf I just think that every thought that comes to my head is worth sharing to the entire world

~Raffles

Stop being me.

Never! We will become one… some day

@Orochimeowru

If derps is town, Boston is mafia and I could be the partner.

If derps is not town, Boston and I could be mafia.

You are trying to worldbuild off Derps’ flip yet no matter in a town!Derps or wolf!Derps world, you get pretty much the same result.

Either I am not understanding this or I am having trouble believing that it’s genuine solving coming from you. Can you explain?

Neon_Genesis_Marluxion’s post really just said “I have four scum reads: AerieRaffles, Orochimeowru, terranceleehew and BostonFlours
AerieRaffles and terranceleehew are unaligned”

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

I have a very needy cat purring on my face

It’s me I’m the cat hiiiii

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

AerithRuffles

~Raffles

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

Ok I have finally decided to give you the time of day and actually read this post

But I’m really not a big fan of all the info posting. You’re asking questions but not really coming to insightful conclusions, at least not at the time of this post I’m replying to

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

Is this really a post a Derps partner makes though

I don’t really think so

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

pick a god and pray

Wow I’m very cringe

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

@terranceleehew

If marls tunnel is real I’m not even gonna bother trying to change his mind it’s not worth the effort from what I remember
-derp

For Marls tunnel to be real I have to be town
And yet the next time you came into thread you decided to afkvote me ‘because I don’t believe what I’m saying’.

Even though you admit that a year and a half ago you hardly memed at all because you were trying to impress people for champs (an impossible task on FoL, trust me I’ve tried.)

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

At the same time does scum Derps really just afk vote me and hope to win a thunderdome when they are at like L-2

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

VOTE: Unvote

[terranceleehew]

Idk like we’re I am atm tbh

[Orochimeowru]

Cream

makes more sense now and I do agree on them being unpartnered

[Orochimeowru]

feel better about neon/marl with the recent string of posts

in the back of my mind, i was wondering if it was a scummy tunnel since i feel like there was a hyper focus on terrance and i feel like if marl was really convinced on derps being mafia then he would hunt for derps’ scumbuddy to a greater degree but I didn’t see much in that department so it almost felt perfunctory like the solve just ended at derps scum which did not feel in alignment with the sentiment and enthusiasm expressed earlier about winning on N1 or D2 or something

recent posts feel like i can see the gears in marls head turning, which i didn’t get a strong sense of earlier for some reason