Binary Stars Hydra JoaT10 - Town wins!

[Orochimeowru]

@AerieRaffles

so there’s that, but then arty was very against us killing Terran; in our hydra chat they said “anyway I think they’re town because I feel like a scum player would care about the game more and I don’t have a reason to distrust them” which like no thats not how any of this works??? I don’t know why arty thinks that people who roll town have mora reason to slank, like literally thats a majority of the players and clearly people play teh game, some people just don’t have motivation to fake it so much, scum takes a lot of effort to put on a facade.

imo when it comes to inactive players (and god knows just how many of this type I have to deal with back in our homesite — see #950), it’s pretty much just a toin coss whether you get a wolf or a slanking townie. I also believe that immediately assuming that ‘not putting much effort = wolf’ breeds complacency. So if Raffles doesn’t have any meta on Terrance, I think it’s pretty reasonable for him to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway uhh…I think you guys can work on your communication a bit more lol

[Orochimeowru]

Like if Achro managed to hold Zone back from OMGUS-ing everyone, you guys can work as a team too!

[Orochimeowru]

Speaking of Mono…gj with the shot! But I’m still a bit sad that Cream wrote this amazing Zone scumcase (on a townlean, yes) on N1 and it won’t be as funny if she even decides to post it. /sigh

[Orochimeowru]

Just curious but what clued you in?

[Orochimeowru]

@LeafiabutWorse

ftr this wagon is never pure imo so like we can just kill in here
marl prob isnt evil imo but like i dont think this was all town

I was gonna bring up a game as refuting evidence (Omnifarious FM), but after checking it turns out there was a wolf in the D1 & D2 town counterwagons so nvm lmao

But still, I believe Aerie is town as much as Cream believes NGM is town, and though her reasons are much greater/heavier than mine…ugghh but their tone is so pure? Like if they’re wolf here then I’m just gonna stop using tone reads because I clearly suck at it. (Btw Cream does think Aerie is town and same for me with NGM – but the belief is just lesser than our picks)

[Orochimeowru]

@SquidSisters

well this is kind of a meta pick but given her last 2 games itd make sense if jaiden is just having their team blow up again. that’s something that happens often for her

Is this Eliza? What does “itd make sense if jaiden is just having their team blow up again” mean?

[Orochimeowru]

@Orochimeowru

okay I’m halfway done with absolutely burying sonic but yeah lemme know if you wanna hear more lmao

I do!! (but after you’ve gotten some rest <(￣^￣)> =3) Have I ever mentioned I love your wallposts? Because I love your wallposts

[Orochimeowru]

@SonicAndKnuckles

most likely due to postcount/no one voting dota
i actually dont know what the idea was cuz i know 100% he aint reading and neither am i

I don’t think town!dota goes into the thread, sees no one voting for him, and goes: “ah yes, town is doing decent”, because ‘decent’ means there is something upper (“great”) and lower (“terrible”).

It would make sense if town!dota thinks: town isn’t voting me → town is NOT gonna misyeet (me) → town is doing great!

But no, he uses ‘decent’. What does make sense is that dota slipped, and due to TMI his thoughts were:

• Great = town finds 2 wolves
• Decent = town finds 1 wolf
• Terrible = town finds no wolf

[Orochimeowru]

@Orochimeowru

Um… Zone meta let’s see:
There is this post:

@Orochimeowru

Zone’s wolftells: not talking much/slanking and sheeping (lol)

Zone’s towntells: gaming the set-up (that is beneficial to town), showing genuine emotions ( cough frustration cough )

Cream:
Zone is a lunatic as town.
Psyx:
My opinion of town!Zone is at rock bottom.
Wisp:
Zone is a puppy as wolf but as town he’s like “fookin vote me before I vote myself I’ll show you”

Our read on Zone… frankly the guy isn’t a hot topic of our hydra chat but scrolling th[ruff] it, Psyx consistently townreads Zone. The exchange with Aeries unfortunately borders on Zone being town, so I think we are both at Zone probably being town. That is the short answer.

Btw, what I meant by “My opinion of town!Zone is at rock bottom.” is that my expectations for town!Zone has gotten so low that as long as the guy makes reads (without a single fakeclaim!!) Imma go “yep, that looks town to me”

[SquidSisters]

this is jaiden. i was making fun of the fact that i rolled scum twice in a row and scum got rolled both times

[Orochimeowru]

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

yeah
we go garfooled/dota/ybw in literally any order and we just win i think

Cream wrote something in our chat on why she thinks Leafia is town; lemme just go find it

[Orochimeowru]

• Leafia makes a meta read, checks the game it was from, then flips their read (all on their own initiative/unprompted)
• Meta diving to confirm the read == townie behaviour, because wolves have no incentive to double-check (it’s unlikely people are gonna verify that meta, and even then the wolf can just say “oh, guess I misremembered, teehee~ ☆”)

@LeafiabutWorse

im assuming this is marl and these are some baller marl posts but I have seen him post this as scum (i dont remember the game or if he was even scum in the game im thinking of but im p sure he was)

its also a post town can make
your confidence on this with how weak this evidence youre presenting is is kinda concerning me
ill have to go look at the other game im thinking of (if i can find it I think I was town in it tho) but still

anyway hi im here now

@LeafiabutWorse

lmao never mind I was completely wrong me and marl were both town
i think I was confusing his gameplay in the mash and in GOAT^2?
either way im dumb, wrong, marl is always correct, and I now townlean marl

@LeafiabutWorse

this is far too many questions so Ill just answer the first one
When looking at how marl had played in a previous game compared to this one, I mixed up the behavior between two seperate games (specifially FAM and GOAT^2, I believed he had acted the way he did in GOAT^2 in FAM, where he was mafia and vice versa) so I started to get really bad vibes from him because I beleived he was acting like he did when mafia. Then I actually took a second look, realized I was wrong, and realized he is acting very similarly to how he did in goat^2. As someone witht errible long term memory, I can’t really describe my experience playing against marl or my historical accuracy of my marl read. Hopefully thats enough idk I feel like it is.

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

yeh
like i said earlier the line in the sand between leafia and garf/sonic is extremely far

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

odds are the game just ends after we kill sonic and garfooled

[Orochimeowru]

I also think Leafia was towny with the way they reacted to us voting their slot:

@Orochimeowru

VOTE: LeafiaButWorse

Collective vote:

• Game feels off.
• Potential houseplant.
• No strong read.
• See where the wind blows.
• Under scrutiny

@LeafiabutWorse

+ratio
+ur mom
+ur dad
+bozo
tbh tho idk what u mean with like half ur explanations lmao

Like, at that time Cream and I felt the thread was too stale (discussion was stuck on just Terrance & Boston). Cream wanted to shake things up, so I suggested voting someone who hasn’t been talked about much (Squid or Leafia). It ultimately just sunk into the pond without making a single wave, but I think wolf!Leafia (who hasn’t been voted or sussed at that point iirc) would’ve taken note of it and focus on us. Or at least give a stronger reaction? Instead of seemingly shrugging us off and then forgetting about it.

[Orochimeowru]

@LeafiabutWorse

like i feel like I live till lylo so often, im almost like never night killed, i actually cannot think of a team when ive been night killed now that I think about it, only ITAd, what the fuck

Honestly a bit envious lol. Maybe I should study your playstyle (Is this YBW or Leafia?)

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

that’s ybw
leafia has the leafeon emote on all their posts

[Orochimeowru]

@SonicAndKnuckles

i was the one who said town was doing good, apologies for the tmi

Is this you confessing your guilt…?

[LeafiabutWorse]

leafia signs her post (and while I make fun of signing posts I do really appreciate it bc I am a very lazy person), and I don’t, so if u see a , thats leafia

[LeafiabutWorse]

i lowkey agree but I wanna still try and find the wolf between orochi and aerie (assuming there is one) if both sonic and garfooled are both town. After thinking about it more i think it is less likely they are both town and one of aerie or orochi are wolf like I previously thought but I still think its a possibility thats worth considering.