I think they should
I don’t remember aretes last time playing on fol but I’m pretty sure they at least loosely follow games here
I am Kim Jong In
Going against me is shitting on me
Your judgement is death
Un 
Thing is, I thought both Arctic and Arete were villagery wrong on Magnus because I MLed Magnus the exact same way as a wolf in GOAT^2 and I did think those same arguments could be used against him if I was town. Like, he just has this way of playing that makes him a good ML if you just approach it from the standpoint of regular play and regular logic (his logic and play aren’t regular by any stretch of the imagination). I had him as town because the way he was playing and the way his processes worked checked out with GOAT^2, but I also expected people not to know this and him to get MLed, particularly after he first garnered suspicion.
I am Kim Jong Out.
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1% battery goodbye world
The exact same thing applies to May in my opinion and this is the primary reason I really want to talk to them (and why I think people might have been wrong on May as well).
I keep reading Arete’s ISO and I see an increasing number of takes I agree with.
And I think #1977 is lock clearing. Like, if Arete is a wolf I demand a special title that makes fun of me getting snowed.
This part
Ngl, I feel like if I’m correct then one of the people I’m townreading might’ve wolfsided a little too hard at points to be a villager, but I don’t want you to pursue this unless two of the people I’ve cast suspicion on flip mafia and you can’t find the third and the people I’m townreading keep surviving.
i won’t be here at eod and if i am i will be drunk
i think otter is wrong because i think may is a wolf and they aren’t w/w. it’s not the worst flip but i doubt it’s a hit unless i’m wrong on may. glgl
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if i am correct i will probably die at night and please listen to my reads
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I think otters absence from the thread is town indicative if anything else I’d be willing to give them more time. I could be wrong but I don’t think wolves make a habit of just dissapearing.
still at work but fwiw you shouldn’t be worried about my health, I was referencing something from like
a couple years ago
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I legit pointed you to the post they made voting Arete if I’m not mistaken.
Probably some other stuff.
They also town read me as their main town read.
By Game State they were town and your replace in and Arete push clears it up for me.
Well if I die over you tonight.
I think we both know who’s reads are better.
Fuck each time I read Arctic recently I’ve been liking the dudes posts so much.
The Arete talk here.
The Jarek talk here.
Like Fuck.
This might be my last post unless there are people I want to talk to when I check in a little later than this.
Detailed thoughts
I have Arete and Zorvo as ICs. Yes, this means I have the main argument of the entire game as V/V IC. Unfortunate, but here I am.
The next tier contains Arctic and Jarek - I have mild concerns about them, but none strong enough to want to eliminate them today (the concerns consist of stuff I’ve described in earlier posts).
The next tier is Marluxion. I think he believes his read on Arete, but I also think he used several openly bad-faith arguments to try and convince me to push Arete, which is making me doubt him being town a bit. Then again, his arguments were so openly bad-faith at times that I wrapped back around to it being towny when I thought about it for a bit more. And happily for Marl, his previous slot holder is Phraze, who is such a polarized player that I genuinely think her posting a full paragraph’s worth of reads makes her a likely villager. I do not have Marluxion as confident town, much like I did not have Phraze as confident town (because I thought putting the bar this low seemed like a potential mistake), but I don’t want to kill him right now, even though I think he’s pushing an IC.
The next tier is May and Molly - I generally townread them, but I see a couple of points in favor of them being mafia. I think May has been more worldbuildy in previous towngames, and they have also been less deliberate - here, I see a lot of elements that look like May is deliberately maneuvering in the thread, particularly on day 2 and after. With Molly, I liked her push on otter from day 1, as I thought it was very creative and I wolfread the slot myself - plus, I just wolfed with Molly, and the biggest thing I can say about her wolfplay is that she doesn’t really generate wolfreads. However, Molly inexplicably switched from Otter to Eliza on day 2 and stayed on Eliza, which is making me wonder why she didn’t want to carry the read through. This holds significantly less weight is Otter is a villager.
I think May and Molly are both not W/W with otterpopd. I don’t feel so confident about this that I would outright lock clear them if otterpopd flips mafia, especially molly (she pushed on otter on day 1, but changed her mind on day 2 and voted Eliza for no real reason given), but I definitely don’t want to push them over otterpopd. With May specifically, I feel like the May/otterpopd grouping could just be V/W, because both of them have interacted with each other weirdly and dimissively, and while you could argue this should make them W/W, I feel like they’d be trying to help each other instead of this weird song and dance that doesn’t even qualify as proper distancing (otterpopd constantly talking about May and May’s wolfgame, while May just refuses to give an alignment read on otter after two days).
The next tier is Prisma - I simply don’t believe the stuff they’ve been townread for is warranted. I think Prisma has overplayed the newbie stuff and bravado-adjacent thing that I listed in one of my posts, and I find the self-awareness suspicious enough to put them low on my list. I’ve read plenty of arguments in Prisma’s favor from several people I townread and from dead villagers, which does instill some doubt in me, but I can’t reasonably place Prisma higher at the moment. At the highest, I would place Prisma next to Molly and May. Aro, I’m sorry if you were right and this is just a villager, but I don’t see it right now.
The semi-last tier contains Lemonfairy. Her posting until now, as a general body of work, is something I would obliterate her for, because she feels much less involved than she did in her last towngame, seems to worry about developing her reads much less, takes less initiative, pays less attention and seems more scatterbrained, a lot of things like that. I am admittedly comparing her to a game where she was the only town PR and needed to survive to give the town a fighting chance, which I am trying to correct for. The reason she is not my preferred elimination today is that I believe her most recent posting to be her towniest posting in this entire game, and I feel like I could clear her (or condemn her) if I were just able to talk to her for a bit and figure out where her head is. I’d be doing that right now if she were here. For that chance, I don’t want to kill her today, but do keep in mind that I think her posting so far is significantly below the standard she set for me in GOAT^2 and I do think this difference can easily be alignment indicative.
Finally, we get to otterpopd, and I can be more brief here - I already wolfcased the slot in my ISO and this is my preferred elimination. She spends a lot of time trolling or talking about May, especially in the early-game, and she seems to be taking every opportunity not to talk about the actual game. When she does talk about the actual game, her reads ring as fake to me, and they are largely based on policy components which I’m not even sure she believes in. Accusing Arete of being a wolf for trying to control the vote, and accusing Zorvo for trying to be a town leader, just seem like fake arguments to me. In #449 she votes Magnus to “make him answer Arete’s questions” but I really don’t get the impression she cares about those questions being answered, especially since she wolfreads Arete herself later on. Her townreads are of a similar kind - she townreads Arogame for pushing activity (her exact words) and Prisma for being clueless, both of which are yet again binary. She also spends a lot of time making arguments for why not executing someone on day 1 is bad - in fact, she spends more time on this than on making any reads whatsoever - and I find that anyone can easily make arguments for why such a thing is bad, and she even extends this to wolfreading the person who suggested it, displaying a complete lack of nuance at best and opportunism at worst. It just seems so binary to suspect my slot (Aleph) for suggesting a no execution and doing nothing else. There’s also the final and ultimately minor point that her posts at EoD1 and EoD2, about thinking it would be funny if wolves killed her, seem really out of place.
I want to kill otterpopd more than anyone. That’s why I’m going for otterpopd over Lemonfairy. The other upside of going otterpopd is that it resolves d1 wagons and makes the night 1 kill Neon un-blacklist people from the site.
My biggest point of doubt is that I think I’m bad at reading new players, and both otterpopd and Prisma are newcomers. If I assume I am indeed terrible at reading those players and otterpopd/Prisma are both villagers, I am left with a wolfteam of Lemonfairy, May, and Molly. You can consider this if otterpopd is a villager and I die overnight, but do give at least Lemonfairy a fair chance, because I think she can clear herself if she is town. If she is not town, she shouldn’t be able to clear herself and you should kill her.
I am not checking in a little later than this.
Good night and glgl.
I’d feel more confident on a wolf flip if we can make the Counterwagon to Arete, Prisma.
In case I die tonight, I want your next post next day to be about Prisma if they don’t become a CW.
Cause I don’t think you have share much opinion on this slot (I could be wrong) but I would like more.
(If I recall correctly you might have given a similar read to Prisma as Arctic did but idk.)