Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

i fucking wish, it looks like they’re having a field day

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@Zorvo yes I’m talking to you
Don’t ping me at all

(post #2895)

I think he was pretty clear about this one, Zorvo.

I kind of want to know now.

Why are you in hell though?

good to know I’m still sane

(…i said it depends on what you say, can you say why that happened)

(did you already say it somewhere i haven’t gotten to yet)

Horrid wretched indecision. I cannot form a single opinion, no matter how hard I try. I’m not even still that sick…

earlier did you not say you thought their interactions felt like they could be w/w

this is what i meant with “people are realizing it’s a thing that kind of does exist” but it’s a hard pill to swallow and no one was really willing to make the leap

the main reason i have for this connection is not due to a lack of interaction (even though from may’s side that is A Thing) but rather due to the ways you two have interacted and made your reads on each other

okay in that case inconspicuously moving someone you previously townread down to the bottom of your readlist just because they voted you (not even with intention to kill) feels more likely to come from a wolf who is inclined to remove people from the game who oppose them than a villager who has to actually figure out why people are doing things they are doing

i saw you pinged them with a reminder to explain it the next time you were in the thread, but the fact you made that readlist and moved them down before they even answered gives me the impression that you did not actually care about their explanation

Arete asks for May and Lemon’s ISOs
Arctic goes and quotes them

there is 0 commentary

Arete and Arctic: wow omg wtf is this lemon is lockwolf omg my eyes have been opened

Arete’s thing about Lemon’s Case on May is bad to me.

Everything in that case was fine. The only thing that seemed off was the thing I Bolded.
Theoretically I could do the same thing with Arete/Arctic or Arete/Prisma and it’ll probably still be a better wolf case of interaction or whatever that Arete has given me here.

I don’t think Lemon and May are wolves and let’s say I’m somehow wrong and they are, Arctic is still their partner.

But I REALLY do not believe either of the 2 are mafia they both have been Townie.

Molly? I can see that. I could see like Prisma, Molly and Arctic.

Molly has been Townie but not to the extent I think they are confident town.

However there is very likely 2/3 wolves in Arete/Prisma/Arctic if not then 1/3 but whoever the 2 town are really need to bury the wolf there.

yeah, I kinda already talked about it
probably didn’t explain it well but idk I think you’ll get the gist

Leeemoooon Arctiiiic are you two wolves together :frogge:

the annoying thing about this is that it would be obvious to anyone who actually knows how arete and i play that if seth had a 2/3 or 3/3 with me/arete/prisma there is no way we would have left him alive, regardless of the quality of his arguments - especially with people like lemon and may being on board with sheeping him

@Lemonfairy what are your thoughts on this?

is this the one you meant lemon

I’m not saying it was
I’m just likening the two because both times it feels like I’m being scumcased for supposed “w/w interactions” that are actually non-existent and in a way that feels very ingenuous (and likely from wolves)

I did not townread them that highly to begin with iirc
I moved them down not only because they voted me, but b/c I thought they had not been as solvy as when I played with them before in previous games (later I think I saw molly say it was b/c May was sick so that’s kind of understandable)
the vote on me was icing on top

I was already scumreading them (or at least, not actively townreading them b/c I do the POE thing) the ping was to double check/ask them to explain the vote

if I didn’t care if I was scumreading them correctly or not, I wouldn’t have bothered to ISO them again and townread them later

also, you say this like May is town and I’m treating their slot with wolfy agenda but the entire reason you and Arete started scumreading was because you thought I was w/w with May
so this is very ??

@mollylikesorigami this one

idk if it makes sense or not because I just started thought spewing but I think it explains most of it?

May are you trolling?

like are you seriously asking this?!

I’m dying inside

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There’s a random number generator in my mind that makes me make random one-line accusations at all times. You’re just going to have to deal with it.

P#2819 was where I started to flip

you were in the thread when it happened so I find it pretty implausible that you just missed it

…yes I do??

this is also false, as I have explicitly stated I have read every post in the game thread

I have gone into detail on Jarek and Prisma, I forget if I’ve gone into detail on Zorvo but like. it’s Zorvo.

this is misrepping my point, I didn’t think your Isos were wolfy (except the first May one for reasons I explained) I just didn’t think they were a good reason to townread you

no offense, but if you’re actually a villager here insulting me in ways that aren’t even true is a pretty awful way to get me to find you as town and it’s frankly pretty gross for you to suggest that I’m somehow horribly wronging you by … daring to say you could possibly be a wolf? I’m not even voting you.

okay, so, what in your first Iso of May made you “comfortable” having her as a “TR”? feel free to clarify which sections were more significant than they looked.

I specifically do not have this agenda!! I tried really hard to get you all to just agree to kill me and then actually solve with me, and you all weren’t willing to do either of those things, which is like. solidly Not On Me.

this is just a blatant bad-faith characterization of my posts today, though. Like, Zorvo offered me a Prisma execution on a silver platter, like two or three people depending on how you count offered me a Zorvo execution, unless you think the team is exactly me/Zorvo/Prisma (lol.) I clearly am not just trying to vote out Whoever.

:really:


Lemon’s posts since Arctic and I started suspecting Lemon + May have been a lot worse than May’s and it’s making me say ‘a’ inside

I think it’s possible if you keep telling people that they have bad reads and while killing more respected villagers that townread you

I think me and May are being left around as misexe bait and your push on me makes a lot of sense if you were wolves and very little sense from villagers

Arete/Arctic V/V and W Lemon pushing on your reads on me in order to ensure the three of us misexecuted even in the case where she goes over?