why do you not townread magnus for townreading you but you townread may for it?
honestly, after the thing arete pointed out, magnus’s iffy wallpost on seth and this blip in logic, magnus/seth w/w might be a thing. but then i saw this post:
and i am just like. what? i can get that you may scumread for arete for the reasons you gave before (even though i don’t agree), but if the implication of this post is that you think seth’s arguments in particular hold any merit then i am fairly concerned (having actually read them and concluding that they are certifiably ), in conjunction with the timing of this making me feel like it’s a deferral of responsibility to seth for a vote on a villager
Was that the game I voted you?
Did you even look at what I said in wolf chat on that I was hoping Magnus went over so I could 180 town read you and distance and when you went over I directly said the word “Fuck”
Ok so.
Eliza/Prima/Arctic/Jarek contains at least 1 wolf with Arete.
Self-Meta is entirely unreliable and means absolutely nothing so I have no reason to just believe you.
I don’t think all three of the wolves jump on one person and push them. Nothing says they can’t but if you can come up with a magical world where all three of those people are wolves and decided to do that I’ll yield.
Is this deferral of responsibility implying May is going to push Zorvo for being wrong or that they’re just shrugging their shoulders and letting whatever happens happens and being oppurtunistic? probably the latter I would assume.
God I forgot to elabourate on that bit; I’m saying that because I think only one wolf at max is making that kind of push if Arete is a townie. So you know. If I’m right and you find the wolf in that trio the other two are townies.
feel like this is probably villagery? for wolf prisma to have the thought that they would only vote at eod, it would have to be for some tactical/strategical reason to gain an advantage, so i think them contradicting this is villagery
only on tuesdays
(legally, yes. but i feel like more of an uninformed spectator than a player right now. i don’t really know what thismeans but it’s a thing that exists)
yeah, i think they’ve been using mafia terminology too fluently to be a new player, but they’ve had a constant presence and have been making no attempt to move the game anywhere.
it’s always funny when slots like this are mafia because half the game ends up spewed town from attempts at trying to guess their identity but then people completely forget about it
i still haven’t fully caught up but without context i’ll say that self-meta is not always unreliable. sometimes it can be easily verifiable and objective which can come in handy
if i were to say repeatedly strongarming villager eliminations wasn’t alignment indicative for me, this can be seen objectively from most of my recent games
this post will come in handy later after i singlehandedly cause 3 villager deaths in a row. fun!
i don’t know who the third person you are referring to is, but my post was theorizing a world where seth and arete are v/v and may’s vote on arete while they were going at each other is coming from a wolf capitalizing on this engagement while handing the responsibility to seth (“I agree with Zorvo)”, mainly due to its timing and the underlying implication that may actually cared about seth’s reasoning, which i struggle to see her caring about?
I just have a hard time reading too deeply into small things like that but It’s entirely possible that’s what happened. Personally I feel like if people are noticing it that easily, it’s probably because it isn’t what they think it is. It’s worth keeping in mind sure but we’ll see.
Yes, but saying “I would push differently as a wolf” means absolutely nothing to me and is unverifiable as far as I’m concerned and is just a cheap deflection tactic.
The third person I am referring to is a ghost because I’m dumb and thought there were three. Either way. I only see one wolf making the push; especially since there’s only three I have suspicions they’ll be more sensitive to eachother since they can’t really afford to mess up as much as a bigger wolf team could.
i can cover two birds with one stone through this post
this is a votecount from neon’s most recent wolfgame (where she posted significantly better than her last wolfgame on this site and more or less snowed me there despite me scumreading her in starcraft) so i am probably subconsciously toning down my townread on her right now,
that said, i think she has been mildly villagery so far e.g. her bluntless about killing seth for being anti-town for self-voting without consideration for his alignment, which i think is something a wolf would be more cautious about posting) and her entitledness wrt taking the game at her own pace by staying in “her own RVS” rather than trying to fit in and appeal to anyone.
the only thing that was kinda ? was the post towards phraze “are you going to pocket me again” i think it was, which is like. a textbook post wolves make towards each other when they feel like they need to interact (see: ladd’s MU article on w/w interactions). i should not even have this read because i don’t scumread either of these players, and yet it exists! but we’ll keep this in mind for later if i turn out to be massively wrong about everything
as for what you were saying, i think the votecount proves that wolves (particularly stronger ones, or ones who can rally a weaker team) can easily pile on a villager wagon together should it either be necessary to save a wolf or to confuse the town (with the latter being more likely in that votecount). this was not actually the point i was making, because my world was one where seth is town and may is a wolf, but i thought we may as well nip this logic in the bud here
i feel like magnus is laying it on a bit thick with post. earlier he clearly pointed out that he was getting mild tonal pings from jarek and implied that he wanted to vote him (unless im stupid) so i don’t see what his confusion is here, nor do i buy that he thinks that he can generate more useful reactions from not voting someone than voting them.
seth/magnus/may. eliza?
problem is a bunch of these people are clearly not w/w
magnus/may being the main one, i think (see: may’s callout of magnus’s post joking about wolfchat being one that a wolf would probably be too scared to make on a partner, plus her callout of magnus’s lack of a vote)
eliza/seth… is. huh. one second
@Zorvo why did you not call out eliza’s vote on you as being opportunistic? i’m looking at the context of those posts again and if you are town eliza’s posts look like textbook wolf jumping on the bandwagon while taking 0 responsibility for it
Summary
i originally wanted to look at these posts to check the viability of seth/eliza as a pairing, and i feel like seth’s ignoring of what is perhaps the worst treatment of his slot is bizarre to me and may indicate w/w
fwiw, the reason i started to suspect eliza and townread arete was due to arete’s post on eliza being in commentary mode. for arete, i find it unlikely wolf them would have had the thought to change gear mid-seth argument and call out eliza for being in commentary mode while they were trying to leverage a push on seth (considering that eliza had also just voted seth at this point) so i think it indicates they have a malleable view of the game. for eliza, well. i just agreed with the post lol
i’m so happy this game is actually readable i didn’t think it would happen and i thought this would be a miserable spam/omgus fest (it still kinda is the latter. but beggars can’t be choosers i guess)