Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

I see your insistence in helping Zorvo get their figurative head out of their ass as a sign of a villager as opposed to just gaslighting the shit out of him and letting him burn the town down. Unless he’s actually right on Arete of course but I like Arete.

if arete is actually mafia i’m never going to hear the end of it from seth and i’m getting tunneled afterwards too

If arete is mafia there’s such a thing as being right for the wrong reasons

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idek about most
otter is ok its just their typing
zorvo has an issue with me and has since i didnt vote arete but i dont think they are anything in particular
arete is an idk
may is fine i think
magnus is ok but think maybe mafia
arctic idk either
jarek seems normal

He could be right. I’d need him to work with me though and also I don’t see it. Arete has been incredibly forgiving in terms of benefit of the doubt and olive branches. They pulled off Zorvo and haven’t gone back even though Zorvo continues to tunnel and they’ve tried to solve around that tunnel and outside it.

That’s town energy baby.

@Arete can give me a full updated reads list?

This is not a wolf people.

This is a new and lost town. Anyone on Prisma give me a detailed reason if what makes them wolf.

I wonder if Aro forgot this game existed

@Arogame123 come out and play. I promise not to kill you day 1 again… probably.

If it makes sense I don’t even care if he’s right the way he’s going about it inherently makes me want to rebel and disagree with them. Because as far as I’m concerned even if they are right it seems to be for purely arbitrary and I have yet to see a good explanation other than “I said so.”

That they have which I would almost say implies they believe Zorvo may be a townie. Which I do too. Arete certainly has more patience than me because if I was getting told to my face I am lock evil when I’m not I’d be snapping those olive branches into pieces.

It makes sense is been my problem with Zorvo’s playstyle ever since the Sillykitty thing.

He was right but he never helped me find him or helped lead me to water. Zorvo is a good player and he has good reads but he doesn’t help his team see them.

I don’t care if your right if you can’t convince anyone else your right and you don’t do that by demanding and telling everyone how right you are.

So @Zorvo will you do a thought exercise for me and I will do it for you to?

This comes across as overly critical, like you don’t believe it’s at all possible for Zorvo to improve despite players from his more recent games suggesting otherwise. Regardless of what you believe May and/or I are doing, there’s no indication you’ve given it the slimmest thought of possibility; quite the opposite, in fact.

You are, indeed, the player I’d mainly prefer to be executed from a “most likely to flip wolf” perspective, but you are neither the biggest infoflip (which I’d rather prioritise on the first day), nor the catalyst on which the game’s worldview depends. Neither condition quites fits Prisma, either. I don’t like executing LHF on the first day unless the alternative is no-exing.

:person_shrugging: I wouldn’t know exactly when I was making that mistake from looking at my old posts, and you wouldn’t know whether I was being honest. Call me combative or unhelpful, but letting you know such a mistake existed is really the extent it helps you read me. It was very early on, before I really engaged with either of you. This does overlap with the timing of my vote on Arete.

Furthermore, expressing tinfoil legacies when I’m slated to be chopped, while sounding helpful, won’t really lead anywhere in the future unless you’re purely asking to humour me. In which case, w!May wouldn’t be aligned with Zorvo or Arete. I’d be inclined to think w!May could be aligned with Jarek or Neon, I haven’t given it much thought. It doesn’t really matter what I think.


Prisma hasn’t been reaction testing, as demonstrated below:

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This is somewhat out-of-context, but it should express the point that Prisma hasn’t really been considering reactiontests as they post:

This is a nice sanity check, I think. If May thinks I’m acting scummy, that means I did something wrong. I’ll keep that in mind for the future.

Anyway, here’s the cool song I mentioned earlier:

I’d like to here what Aretes updated world view is but I do think they’ve been very towny in how they’ve treated the push into them.

Also, for the record, this is accurate, except for the fact that I’m town. I haven’t reflected on this game yet; I’m just thinking thoughts as they come. None of my reads are anything I feel confident in; they’re level 1, so to speak. I don’t know if Magnus will keep pinging scum when I actually think about these things and discuss them with myself, but they sure are now.

Off the top of your head right now with no deep thought

Top town
Top scum

And why?

i have combed the thread to find a coherent reason as to prisma they are a wolf (and i have just opened their iso to make a post after this on what i find, in case there is anything i’ve missed) but i’ve found very little beyond a nonsense w/w association with arete and this post from magnus

eliza says they are leveraging being a new player for towncred gain, and without elaboration i’m not sure how they are distinguishing between the case where this malicious intent and the case where prisma is simply being a new player and posting like one
@ElizaThePsycho elaborate please?

oh there’s also this which is the only point that doesn’t seem like a nothingburger to me, but even then i don’t see the wolf motivation behind this post

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Magnus (4): Arctic, otterpopd, Prisma101, May
Zorvo (2): Jarek, Lemonfairy
Prisma101 (1): ElizaThePsycho
otterpopd (1): mollylikesorigami
Arete (1): Magnus
ElizaThePsycho (1): Arete
No-execution (1): Aleph
Aleph (1): Phraze
May (1): Zorvo

Not Voting (2): Arogame123, Neon

For the sake of wagonomics, these votes should preferably be consolidated. Just for the record.

I’m really not trying to be a dick to Zorvo. I think Zorvo is a really good player who is really improving but I think they can be the type of player I hold in reverence if they listen to and try to understand what I’m getting at here and I want to foster that maybe ig

Zorvo could be a player I hold at the level I hold players like Lumi or Mac with slight changes.

Top town right now is probably Zorvo, he had very distinctive tells last game and he’s not doing any of them right now. It’s not a set-in-stone read, as people learn and change and grow, and I have some specific tests planned to double-check myself on this one that I won’t get too far into.

Top scum with no deep thought… you can find that by taking a look at my vote. Magnus is pinging weird. Prisma was also pinging weird.

Welcome to my worldview enjoy your stay

There’s time. But yes eventually.

Magnus tell me what you’re attempting to accomplish with your play today?

What have you learned from it?

What’s your worldview in full?

I’d like as detailed an explanation on this as you can give me?