I can’t do math
Two town are dead so its 13
there’s only been just above 200 posts this phase and without aro pushing everyone to do stuff i think the game would be a ghost town right now, so i’m inclined to townread his efforts today. this is also because the last game i played with him, he spent day 1 and part of day 2 playing eternal wallpost catchup as a wolf, but this game he’s felt more participatory and involved in the realtime discussion. you could argue that if the poe is correct, aro trying to encourage activity does not necessarily have towny motivation, but i feel like the things he’s asking people aren’t loaded or designed to push a specific agenda, so i townread it regardless
my only real problem with him is the reason to townread arete for not killing him because that feels like a reach which can be applied to literally anyone? though maybe he can explain this because lol
Prisma says to never say Arete cause for the last time, Arete is my top wolf read.
No I said me or arctic referring to “if one person on the Magnus wagon who do you think it is” me and arctic are the only two that you wolf read
UNVOTE
well fuck me this is convincing
Lets kill May that’s my read for today die may die lets have starcraft part 2
Yep that’s correct.
Eliza and Arctic have next potential.
tell me that if Magnus’s wagon contains at least one mafia, who do you believe is likeliest to be mafia on that wagon with you?
You already know I think it to be Arete.
in a similar way to your in-depth magnus read earlier, could you do another one of those explaining your read on otter?
Sure.
They are the typical ML that wolves go for.
The typical wagon to the other town wagon and voted their counter wagon. It’s Rand Town.
Magnus never voted them cause they were confident in Arete being a wolf like I was and I’m not even sure Magnus even wolf read their Counterwagon otter and maybe even town read them I don’t remember.
if you think the wagons were v/v, what stops the magnus wagon from being pure?
It wasn’t.
That was the reason I voted it.
To show everyone wolves were manipulating it.
fact if the wagons were v/v it’s probably more likely to be pure
LMAO. I’ll vote you instead Arctic if you keep saying stuff like this.
Neon flipped Green.
Arogame123 is Green.
TvT wagon implies wolf to be more likely on the damn Magnus wagon then otterpop wagon.
EoD1 Vote Count
Voted Voting Votes Magnus Arctic, otterpopd, Prisma101, Arete, Zorvo 5/8 otterpopd mollylikesorigami, Neon, Arogame123, Lemonfairy 4/8 Arete Magnus, Phraze 2/8 Prisma101 ElizaThePsycho 1/8 Zorvo Jarek 1/8 Jarek May 1/8 No Execution Aleph 1/8 i figured out how to do these again
ping me with errors in the next five or something minutes or i’ll carry through with Justice™
I just think it’s really funny how hard May didn’t trust magnus yet their vote stayed on me the entire day.
Curious.
okay fair enough i didn’t really factor in the whole zorvo hellbussing thing but i feel like he’s capable of tunneling a villager as a wolf lol
Can you cut with this fucking shit, I vote on wolves way fucking more then I do town as a villager.
@May has my proof.
LMAO. I’ll vote you instead Arctic if you keep saying stuff like this.
the logic i am using is similar to what arete said here:
I don’t really think your logic for the Otter wagon being pure in v/v worlds holds (like it could still be true but not for the reason you think it is) – I agree that wolves would probably rather not push it over the Magnus wagon since that could ‘look bad,’ but I think in a v/v world they would be totally happy to hop on it as long as it didn’t go above the top wagon, and they wouldn’t have a reason to get off it (idk if I’m explaining it well)
so long as the otter wagon didn’t overtake the magnus wagon, it makes more sense for wolves to vote on the villager wagon that doesn’t go over so they won’t look as bad for being on the wagon of the flipped villager - thus wolves would be less inclined to be on magnus. calling it pure might be a stretch, but this was my thought process
in reality i feel like if the wagons were v/v then wolves are actually more likely to be on people vanity voting than either of the wagons just because i townread most people voting on the actual wagons and this is the alternative option to voting on the otter wagon that also looks better than voting magnus. my poe is pretty much all non-voters except for otter, but this is a world where they’re a villager, so
I voted zorvo and if I change to vote otter that will give zorvo more reason to suspect me
Summary
i have felt prisma is town all game but this post feels like such a wolf perspective like why do they care about zorvo suspecting them if they think zorvo is a wolf aaa
Because zorvo doesn’t have a lot of reasons im a wolf and if he finds more then he can make you all vote me despite me not being wolf
hm okay thats fair i guess
you shouldn’t play like you’re worried about getting voted, that often causes you to act like you’re playing out of self-preservation which looks wolfy!
unless you’re a wolf then feel frree to carry on
otter by virtue of them being the only person who i actually wolfread on this list. if not them then i have no idea but i’d lean one of arete/zorvo if i keep not dying at night because i’ve been promoting the world that they are v/v so it’d make sense to keep me alive if i was wrong on one of them
villager would be zorvo, again by virtue of me townreading them the most for reasons unrelated to this
Sure.
They are the typical ML that wolves go for.
The typical wagon to the other town wagon and voted their counter wagon. It’s Rand Town.Magnus never voted them cause they were confident in Arete being a wolf like I was and I’m not even sure Magnus even wolf read their Counterwagon otter and maybe even town read them I don’t remember.
i have asked why you think they are town and this answer is pretty much “because they are town” with a side of “magnus thought they were town”
do you think there was anyone in particular pushing them opportunistically that might indicate that “they are the typical ML wolves” are going for? i feel like they received a lot less scrutiny than they deserved yesterday after having looked at their iso, but the same could be said for eliza so eh
also, magnus didn’t actually think arete was a wolf (i think??), he was just voting them because he thought their flip was the most informative
@Aleph @Lemonfairy time to exist in the game you signed up for
i don’t have anything in particular to ask you, but, at least for aleph, let’s go somewhere in the direction of reads rather than mechanics/nightkills
well it’s a gutread so any explanation will be futile but I’ll try
i don’t like the “on principle” part specifically; it reads to me like a policy execution which is incongruent with them being suspicious
i feel like you’ve kind of been trying to push people into making reads rather than actually making reads
whether or not this is mafia-indicative or not is another question
i think these were the main posts i townread eliza for
i’ll probably go into more detail irl-tomorrow but i think eliza’s solving feels more down to earth with the logic she employs compared to the explanations i’ve seen her use as a wolf. also her involvement today has felt a lot less commentary-like which was the main reason i had to suspect her yesterday after arete pointed it out
hey folks i forgot i wasn’t a spectator for a moment
@arete im here
also i have experienced this feeling many times and it only really happens when i’m town because as mafia i have a wolf chat i am actively participating and making nightkills which keeps me grounded, so i can’t help but townread this
oh also i’m townreading people, including eliza, who are saying “wtf the neon kill was weird” when it obviously was not weird and wolves who had TMI on why the kill was made would in fact know it was not weird when it was done for a reason (which was either being consensus town or correct, or both).
also this is a really weird kill
(i bet it’s zorvo’s fault)
also
was there a reason you thought Zorvo would be particularly likely to kill Neon?
he claimed to be scared of neon
i cannot explain why but this sequence feels villagery to me. maybe it’s just the fact she was paying enough attention to remember zorvo said that, and she’d be paying more attention if she had to solve the game than if she was a wolf and didn’t.
meh it’s probably actually not important because i’ve found eliza is actually more attentive as a wolf because they (i think) prefer wolfing? oh well i’m not deleting this point gn
VOTE: May
let’s see
maybe it’s just the fact she was paying enough attention to remember zorvo said that
A mafia would remember that to deflect the blame onto zorvo