Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

[Prisma101]

@Arogame123

So if you are town Prisma, I would ask you to relook over Zorvo and try to empathize with his perspective and he carries himself. I know his sr on you might warp your perspective, but try to understand and see if how he approaches it makes sense even if it is incorrect. Thought process >> actual result. @otterpopd, I’d like you to take a look at this as well and lmk your thoughts on Zorvo.

im sticking with zorvo and remember the only reason he is suspecting me (as stated in d1) is because i ignored his wall post and didnt vote arete and because of 1 or two things (out of the 118) i said that seemed wolfy

[Arogame123]

But Zorvo is also scum reading arête the most and believes you are a likely partner to them which is why he scum reads you as well. He feels that your interaction with arête is partnery but that’s because Zorvo is working under the assumption that Arête is mafia.

[Prisma101]

@Arogame123

believes you are a likely partner to them which is why he scum reads you as well

the reason why he suspects me as a partner is because i didnt vote arete when i didnt even know who arete was at the time

[mollylikesorigami]

hey aro, i know it’s a bit of a longshot that you’re still here, but do you think you can sell me on this? i was prolly gonna plop a vote on her before i went to bed otherwise.

[mollylikesorigami]

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

i hadn’t been paying much attention to eliza, and when i actually looked at her iso, it seems like there’s basically no follow-through on her reads?

[Zorvo]

@Arete

• Their posts today have … obviously been worse. I think this is pretty unsurprising regardless of alignment given that they say they’re sick.

How does being Sick cause someone’s posts to be “Worse”?

@Arete

Aleph - 87% town
May - 85% town
Arctic - 85% town

@Arete

Molly - 82% town

@Arete

I would currently say my reasons for townreading May are weaker than my reasons for townreading Molly

@Arete

stronger than Lemonfairy, Aleph, Arctic,

I understand how Arctic moved down. (Apparently more down then May)
Explain how you moved up on Molly today and explain how Aleph moved down for you?

@Arete

theoretically the list of people that I haven’t really felt any particular reason to townread all game is Eliza/Aro/Otter but I don’t really believe that’s the exact wolfteam lol

I already explained how Aro is obvious town.
Read my first post of this day phase.

[Zorvo]

@mollylikesorigami

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

i hadn’t been paying much attention to eliza, and when i actually looked at her iso, it seems like there’s basically no follow-through on her reads?

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

[Zorvo]

@Arogame123

tbh tho, if it is Arete, I do feel like his likely partner is Prisma and the third is somewhere within my POE list.

I believe that last one to be Eliza.

@Arogame123

it’s a tinfoil thought

That you got from me and agree that they both have wolf equity.

[Host_Account_4]

ElizaThePsycho (3): Arogame123, mollylikesorigami, Zorvo
May (2): Jarek, Arctic
Zorvo (2): Prisma101, otterpopd
otterpopd (1): ElizaThePsycho
Arctic (1): Phraze
Prisma101 (1): Lemonfairy

Not Voting (3): May, Aleph, Arete

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

this is scum

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

actually nvm im stupid

[Zorvo]

@ElizaThePsycho

this is scum

Clearly someone didn’t see my opening post.

[Arctic]

@Lemonfairy

VOTE: Prisma

maybe lol

@Prisma101

why?

@Lemonfairy

sheep Zorvo

[Arctic]

i ended up explaining my read on eliza last night and don’t really have anything to add there

i agree that lemon sheeping zorvo there is a little ? but not because it’s not zorvo’s main push (since zorvo is currently voting prisma after all) but more because they’ve given no indication to think that zorvo’s reads are accurate

idk what to make of them because a lot of their villagery posts on a micro level, but looking at their overall play, it seems to be mostly catchup oriented and a lot of their posts/analysis feel like they are made to gain townreads rather than focus on solving the game - it feels too linear, for lack of a better description

[Arogame123]

Yea, I agree with u on Lemon Fairy and I can see that, which is why I dropped them.

I have no clue where Aleph has been either.

I’ll reread ur Eliza tr again but I didn’t really like their response to me and how they came in. Similar to what Molly said, not much depth/follow through with their reads. I also feel like their direction/confidence of their reads doesn’t match up with their pushes if that makes sense. And additionally when looking at it holistically, I didn’t really like their push on Prisma and then onto Otter for reasons I already discussed/countered as well. It felt nitpicky to me.

I also felt like Eliza’s response to me was empty and didn’t really elaborate on their perspective/reads.

Who would you want to kill the most today then Arctic?

[Arogame123]

Any elaboration on your other reads or do you have thoughts elsewhere?

[Arctic]

@Zorvo

No.
If there was they never planned to go through with it.

I don’t believe that there are wolves at the end there sitting there.

Let me make this clear.

I think the Otter wagon was pure, not the Magnus wagon.

but you think otter is town because “they are typical ML bait that wolves go for” and if you don’t think wolves were going for them then surely this is contradictory
you are essentially townreading them by virtue of them being LHF when LHF can be mafia or town

@Zorvo

That’s it Phraze and Lemonfairy are lock town.

Magnus sheeped me, gets sus for it and so do these two.
Magnus got miss executed and flipped town.
So these 2 are automatically town, case closed!

what do i even say at this point

@Lemonfairy

waiting for someone to push me so I can OMGUS

(not entirely serious, but i think your slot deserves more scrutiny)

[Arogame123]

@mollylikesorigami just to tag u with my brief thoughts and I also touched up on some of these reasons earlier.

[Arogame123]

Also @Phraze can you elaborate and why you feel like Arctic/Magnus had a mafia in there?

Or it seemed like you mentioned how Magnus felt better than arctic in their interaction, but is there a reason you didn’t think it was t/t?

[Arctic]

@Arogame123

Similar to what Molly said, not much depth/follow through with their reads. I also feel like their direction/confidence of their reads doesn’t match up with their pushes if that makes sense

i’m not sure either of these things are particularly AI for eliza
she doesn’t tend to elaborate or follow through with reads very often and her confidence can honestly can be described by two states being “i have no idea what’s going on” and “this person is mafia” which never really correlates to the strength of her pushes because reads aren’t usually black and white and don’t fit well into this

@Arogame123

Who would you want to kill the most today then Arctic?

i plead the fifth

consider it me holding my hards close to my chest