Blood on the Forums XXVII: Hide and Seek -- Evil Wins

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#1421

may makes sense as a lil-monsta non-carrying minion who is just trying to stay utr. I think they’d do a lot more with pushing within their noble 3 if that was actually the case. Additionally I kinda just don’t trust the noble info, jarek being dead and raincloud getting pushed super hard by bionic (as well as generally being towny, and standing up well to the pressure in a way where I think evil would crack), heart tells me all 3 are good.

question is who is other. Bionic would make sense but I think there’d be a sense of urgency there from May to be active and stop themselves from being an easily elim for being a starting info role. socially tells me that’s not the world.

Still don’t really want to sleepwalk into anything tbh. I could go for killing most of this playerlist atm and I want to hear may’s arguments outside of that.

#1422

if i was poisoner that makes bionic not mezzed by me. Also nobody is taking the undertaker at face value, I know I’m not, and it was said even before then on d1 that undertaker was going to be very likely poisoned

#1423

also gummy saying, and I quote, “do you want to whisper” and me saying “not really” isn’t “desparate” in my eyes. that seems like a gross overstatement.

#1424

it just seems weirdly unprompted and specific from gummy’s end i’m not sure what to make of it

#1425

I agree wholeheartedly its very out of the blue

#1426

also in that hypothetical why dont i respond to this? (“didnt want to seem paired” is valid and likely explanation but still)

#1427

idk just feels like a Me Evil world requires jumping through a lot of hoops and hypotheticals whereas fmpov there’s a ton of much likelier worlds that I still havent managed to narrow down.

makes me question benguined specifically for this level of susp, I dont know if its really reasonable to continue to harp on “what if MAYHATER is actually mez and turned bionic or is poisoner who kept raincloud alive etc etc”.

its useful to consider these what-ifs to make sure you arent trusting too much somebody who could be evil, but the constant jumping through hoops to make it work feels much more in line with evil with some sort of agenda vs. how a towny naturally forms thoughts

#1428

mayhater you literally claimed a doubleclaim to me don’t act like i have to jump through hoops to think you might be evil

#1429

Bro i was procrastinating my essay

#1430

Wha

#1431

i stand by my claim, for the record. and for the record #2, there are plenty of roles which may lead to a doubleclaim (i am none of them)

#1432

You’d have no reason not to.

  1. Bionic is obviously evil.

  2. If MAYHATER was evil she had less than no reason to save me.

  3. If May really was Noble, she’d be fine with being executed. I think May is minion that’s holding Lil Monsta in worlds where Someone’s info is accurate.

#1433

You literally do.

#1434

VOTE: May

Let’s just replace this vote.
Yeah I suppose I jumped the gun a bit earlier by voting during discussion phase but I’ve been in games where noms have been allowed the entire day too so my b lol

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#1435

Hm, to add onto the 3rd point a bit.
In that world would May be a good poisoner candidate then?
Poisoned Jarek N1 so Jarek saw a drunk which doesn’t exist and then me N2 so I saw Bionic/Jarek as good when one of them is evil.

There’s a drunk probably somewhere like Mayhater or benguined.

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#1436

If STs are killing a player to try and help evil I don’t think they kill the drunk, hence me thinking Jarek is the straight up dreamer. I don’t think I’m drunk but I do suspect I could have been poisoned. And if you’re saying Someone’s info is right then it’d mean that it’s less likely Someone is drunk too and therefore Jarek, the Dreamer, received misinformation which is likely due to poisoning?

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#1437

Yeah, I definitely think that May is a good Poisoner candidate.

#1438

not sure how 100% I am just walking into a M*y elim. I think its ~fine but I want better than that.

#1439

I do want to make it clear that I also claim dreamer, with generally not relevant results. m2 m*y noble/poisoner is one.

#1440

Alright let’s look at a good overview of things.

Do you think Bionic is evil? Yes or No?

If so then there’s 1 wolf left. This would be within the noble pings, or the noble if May is sober.
These pings are Jarek (Dead Dreamer claim), Rain (Undertaker claim) and yourself.

If not then there’s 2 wolves left.
There’s likely 2 people saying that Bionic is evil so you’d need to consider what that means.