BOTC/BOTF Discussion Thread 2

Game Discussion
#601

In a Fang Gu game* / Drunk / Goon / Lunatic are, I think, would be the best “delayed” Librarian sightings.

#602

Oh, and Politician.

#603

i mean
you either have 1 outsider, two, or zero

if you’re pixie lib, its not like you’re going to get a different result with 1 or zero, and two is situational if you do, at best

#604

otherwise, baron and sentinel are the only real use cases of it
but it’s still librarian

and if its sentinel in a game with already 1 or more base outsiders, it won’t help at all with determining if there’s a fake outsider

#605

If you’re specifically the Pixie Librarian, this accomplishes a few things.

  1. The Librarian is real.*
  2. You can henceforth confirm the Librarian’s information, and then an Outsider as a result, forming a trust chain.*
  3. As a top 4 role, they should be relatively willing to die if they figure out you’re the Pixie.
  4. You can corroborate their info, or find someone new.*
  5. In the event you received false starting information, you could have the power of an out-of-play role.*

* Assuming you aren’t Drunk or Poisoned, or they aren’t a Spy, all the standard stuff applying to every other role anyway.

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#606

yeah this is a lot of ways to say you know the librarian is real

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#607

And not the Drunk.

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#608

which is just
the same as regular pixie
or professor

#609

The difference between the Pixie and Professor is that one has a public effect, publicly confirming two players, which feels undeservedly punishing for the Evil team.

#610

pixie confirms one, and mostly confirms another, unless a very specific events transpired of which can be rather quickly figured out by the good team via coordination and abilities

#611

Pixie can only confirm another character as being in-play, to themselves, and it’s a fairly easy role to bluff as.

#612

you can do anything with any speck of information if you shove it down good’s throat hard enough

#613

The Marionette is a quality Minion for a select number of reasons.

  1. Having the Marionette on the script can make Good players uncertain for which team they should be playing for, which doesn’t really exist elsewhere.
  2. Just like the Drunk, the Marionette can spread useful misinformation.
  3. If the Marionette believes they are Good, they will also act Good.
  4. The Marionette begins with a bluff, which can be especially useful where other Minions would have to go without; i.e Lil’ Monsta, Poppy Grower, etcetera.
  5. The Marionette neighbours the Demon, meaning they can coordinate whispers without leaving their seats.
  6. This is script-dependant, but in the event of there being a Magician in-play, the Demon would know for a certainty that the Marionette is on their team.
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#614

I like this good role and everything is going so great this game for me!

/whisper

“What do you want?”

“Hey, I am the demon, you’re the marionette”

:slightly_frowning_face:

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#615

They dont know

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#616

The magician can in fact make the demon think they are the marionette

Terrifying!

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#617

only if the mag is sal next to the demon tho
so the marionette is more likely (but not certain) to be on your team

#618

the funnier is

“lI like this good role and everything is going so great this game for me!”

“you are now the imp glgl”

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#619

This

But Pit Hag and Lunatic are also on script

So you have no idea whether or not you were Marionette or just got turned into a Lunatic

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#620

can the demon think they are cere mad as part of the magician’s “think” clause