i broke whisper so I needed to whisper back
Ah well I didnāt see, in that case /accept
Youāre on thin ice for breaking my heart 
Votes for the Organ Grinder only count if they vote for themselves. I assume?
If Jarekās right: You donāt.
If I am right: You donāt.
Hence why my point is just to ignore it and focus on Demon-hunting instead.
Because game ends with Good victory if Demon dies.
Itās honestly a bit benign anyway, as it doesnāt do much aside from obfuscating the votes.
Thatās what Jarek claims, but the wording doesnāt say that. IMO it is up to the hosts how to interpret it, but if they say that Jarekās correct, then I blame the role description for being vague.
From the wiki
When a player is nominated, ask all players to close their eyes. If they ask why, tell them that an Organ Grinder is in play. When counting votes, do so silently. Afterwards, do not reveal how many players voted, nor if the nominee is āabout to dieā. If there were enough votes to execute the nominee, mark them with the ABOUT TO DIE reminder. Ask players to open their eyes, and if there are any more nominations.
If the Organ Grinder is nominated, follow the above process, but do not place or move the ABOUT TO DIE reminder if the Organ Grinder didnāt vote.
When nominations are closed, declare that the player marked ABOUT TO DIE , dies .
Power-wise it is ābenignā compared to roles that straight-up kill people, but in a social deduction game, obfuscation of information is not only bothersome but is āpotentiallyā damning.
Yeah but it doesnāt change peopleās information. Yeah voting is a big part of this game, but I think we can work around the OG pretty well if we play smart.
The only thing OG changes is that if you try and vote the OG then they essentially get to choose if they die or not.
Whatever this is, is probably from the BotC wiki, because the voting style does not match BotF at all. I donāt care what youāre saying; I stand by my point unless @Monke says otherwise.
Thereās another role called Vizier which is even worse, if you ask me.
Essentially, itās an evil minion that gets outed to the entire game at the start. Itās ability is to force any nomination it wants to get executed immediately and for the day to end every single day so long as at least 1 good player voted on it.
God itās painful.
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Well either way have fun getting monkeād
Says the lizard
I donāt know what that means, but I suddenly have the urge to change my nomination from Litten to you.
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