Chapter I - The Jutting Watchtower - Red Burns (Night 3 - 17 Remain - Thread 1)

[Zenon]

@Artemis

Oh, and I think you’re a lot more likely to pull this kind of thing as an off the wall wolf play than as a villager.

I dunno… like it kinda just feels towny to me. I feel like if the very bad thing was supposed to happen as a restriction of the ability than if a wolf broke it wolfs would be punished and if town broke it town would be punished.

[Jarek]

@Wisdom

Isn’t the wincons just “kill wolves”?

@Wisdom

Well mine is

I mean if I were reaching really hard I would vote this. This reads like being scared to name the wincon incase they got it wrong but I don’t wanna kill off of just that.

@Wisdom

Bean - v
Magnus - v?

L.una - w?

Kiruma - friend shaped cookie

Is someone mech v btw?

The magnus V read seems juxtaposed to what everyone else thinks, so I’m interested to see where that comes from. I personally don’t think Magnus is evil but they’re not exactly the golden standard for a townie right now either.

I could iso marl too. But I’m not going too.

[Zenon]

@Magnus

I am simply following the thread state that has been laid out before me. My vote should be on Litten, but this vote is a logically better alternative for progressing the day. I know you’re only complaining because you care about me.

Both of these pushes would be just awful. Why are you pushing townies?

Some obv townies cough Marl/Wisdom

[Vulgard]

@Litten

Honestly Artemis and magnus might be w/w

I don’t know about Magnus, but Artemis is the villageriest player in the thread for her push on you, it’s a very towny push

@Litten

Artemis has been HARD pushing me to an unhealthy degree

It’s not wolfy though, and she has multiple good points
Your takes are rather insane

@Artemis

I think Millium, Guava, Windward, Atlas, Sabi, and Min are all town. I feel fairly confident about all of those reads.

The only one I really disagree with is Guava and mayyyybe Millium because I’m not completely sure about my assessment of her play

With Guava I just have no read there whatsoever

@Litten

I’m going to go start conserving my posts now because I’m starting to run out

You aren’t

@Millium

VOTE: vulgard

I actually laughed

@guavagudetama

@Magnus

VOTE: Atlas.

really don’t like this vote when they have mech info that implicates three other players

True actually but I don’t think it’s a huge deal because they still could want to vote other people

[Jarek]

@Litten

Who do you think is the mafia then pal?

I never answered; Not sure I’d brand anyone here irredeemably evil, to be honest. There are people I would prefer to die over others but I cannot say with any certainty I’d be correct.

The list in order for me goes from least killable to most killable
Jarek
L.una/Cassandra assuming they are NPC’s but I have no idea so ???
Sadbi
Scorbunny
Litten
Guava

The middle ground (I have nothing)
Silviu
Beancat
Zenon
Min
Vulgard
Hazardwaste
Magnus 00

The list of people I felt like killing at some point or another and haven’t updated my read on/still feel like killing
Millium
Wisdom
Jaiden
Italy
Kiiruma 00

Artemis would be in the kill list but I am putting that on ice and isolating them for now because they are at odds with me; I have a habit of seeing people who push me as evil by default, and it’s to the detriment of town.

00 - If I were to choose to flip one over the other it would be kiiruma who has claimed to be a wolf and not the claimed death miller. But Ideally neither would die. Yet.

[Magnus]

@Jarek

Meh Magnus claimed Death Miller so either way they’re going to flip as a wolf. I don’t particularly care how it dies, but it should die at some point. I’d rather not pile on when there’s 5 people who are willing to put votes on it though.

“Potentially” death miller. I’d give it 80:20 odds.

[Zenon]

@Artemis

I have no idea why you’re trusting a public modconfirm that has no design reason to be public in a bastard game.

Mods should ALWAYS be trusted in any game until there is actual reason to believe they are lying.

Bringing mod info into doubt is just wolfy it causes comfusion for no reason it creates a chaotic game state and keeps discussion away from solving. Pls… can we focus on solving players and not the mods…

[Jarek]

@Magnus

“Potentially” death miller. I’d give it 80:20 odds.

Could just be lying you know

[Magnus]

@Zenon

I’ve never really understood the point of reading in to night kills. There are so many variables wolfs can play with and than we just get circular arguments for every possible scenario which kinda helps nobody.

I think it can sometimes be worth reading into nightkills if there’s an obvious alternative kill that didn’t happen.

[Vulgard]

The list below is unordered within tiers

Artemis – villageriest player today
Atlas – was villagery yesterday and still is today
min – also villagery
WindwardAway – also villagery

beancat – villagery roleclaim IMO
Hazardwaste – villagery roleclaim IMO

Sadbi – V from Scorbunny’s mech info? Idk how much I trust that info but putting this here for now

Millium – behavior ?probably? makes her town? I’d like a second opinion on this, again

Kiiruma/Cassandra/L.una – the null zone of mechanics

Litten – I still feel like he should be cleared from the announcement and the fact we did have two kills, even though he’s posting legitimately insane takes (like the Atheist game thing). If a town vig shot one of the nightkills, please claim it right now because it could deconfirm the claim on Litten. The fact I’m entertaining him not being cleared probably means something, but I don’t want to throw by voting out a player that should’ve been mechcleared, so I’m looking for ways to disprove it

Leaving: Italy, Silviu, Scorbunny, Guava, Jarek, Jaiden, Magnus, Zenon, Wisdom

My read on Marl was weak so the slot is essentially back to null
I think Wisdom can become obvious town with time if they’re town fwiw

This PoE is way too broad and I don’t like it

[Jarek]

@Vulgard

WindwardAway – also villagery

I knew I missed someone.

Wind is a v for me too. so no biggie.

[Magnus]

It contrasts Bean’s previous game in energy and you were pocketed hard that game so you should know that.

[Zenon]

@Artemis

I lied. I’m adding one addendum. I think him trying to push the angle that it’s an athiest game is outing, and I won’t back this up with anything.

This is literally the only thing you’ve cased on Litten I think is wolfy tbh

[Magnus]

@Zenon

I have mech reason to believe Jarek is town but also this is towny indignation.

This has been claimed twice today.

[Vulgard]

VOTE: Scorbunny

Please explain the clear on Sadbi

[Jarek]

I think it’s pretty funny myself

[Vulgard]

Fyi I don’t really understand the Magnus push

If someone could explain briefly why they’re mafia that would be nice

@Magnus Since you’re here, where’s your second Dreamer result?

[Zenon]

@min

unrelated but artemis posts read like town but then i just like

Artemis is obv town. Like… holy shit…

[Vulgard]

Oh yeah I would also like to know how Jarek is mechcleared

Vagueposting about people being cleared is something I’m not super inclined to trust because it’s a bastard game

[Magnus]

My modifier would presumably flip with my rolecard because it doesn’t say it would be amended. In any case I wouldn’t lie about this or else I would’ve done it sooner.