Too bad that what Karl Marx wanted and what Marxism is are quite different.
1 Like
nope, youâre mistaken there, the entire thing was just setting up a democratic system that never got to actually exist before pretty much everyone involved was brutally murdered by monarchist forces
2 Likes
Ohhhh, thatâs very yikes.
1 Like
And also too bad that there were many thoughtful ideas during the french revolution, like abolishing slavery in the french colonies but then Napoleon came and U-turned that entire thing.
1 Like
as for cold war era communism, I will keep it brief and say that attempting to build the future out of countries and systems that had been completely destroyed by famine and misrule was a doomed endeavour from the start, and they shouldâve focused on fixing those lands first before trying to construct a utopia. i dislike the notion that those governments âwerenât truly communistâ, because letâs make it clear, they were, but I also detest the notion that judging the entire project of equality based on them is fair
2 Likes
Basically, it never goes okay when you have a government that prevents freedom of thought, of criticism, protest and of choosing their government.
1 Like
Equal suffering for everyone because clearly it was already lacking
1 Like
well yes those things are bad but what caused them to do that in the case of like, the USSR, was the Russian Civil War. it was still a bad choice but you have to understand why it was made
2 Likes
I am thinking the red october revolutionaires were trying to create a french revolution within their own country and create the utopia that they much wanted.
Well too bad when a certain someone focuses on expansion meanwhile the others can barely afford a bread.
1 Like
The entire monarchy, even literally the dog got killed
1 Like
the entire country was war-torn from within and without, due to the joint pressures of the first world war and the subsequent civil war following the October Revolution, to frame every choice they made as thoughtless idealism ignoring the consequences and not the far more dangerous making a mistake in pragmatic circumstances is folly
2 Likes
Clearly they forgot about intellectualism
no, no, they didnât, the early Soviet Union had a complex intellectual tradition, free speech was dialed back because of wartime (Iâm not saying it was good, Iâm saying itâs what happened) as was the right to democracy, and once power is gathered itâs surprisingly difficult to separate it
2 Likes
they made choices thinking they didnât have any choice, and in doing so completely warped their own ideals into twisted versions of themselves
2 Likes
It wouldâve been very very very very great if it was the utopia where every person was happy to say theyâre happy.
1 Like
The dangers of ethnical blindness is also what drives corporations/governments around the world to do very bad decisions.
the interior politics of the Bolsheviks were just as complex as the interior politics of any political party, they were not a monolith making decisions basedd on lofty ideals but flawed people trying to be pragmatists in a situation where the forces arrayed against them effectively offered them no victory except to corrupt themselves
2 Likes
the message is not that you shouldnât pursue lofty ideals or revolution against the corrupt state of the world, but that such a thing is only possible if the world has been reformed first. I donât think you can gradually reform the worldâs many injustices out, but I do think that the ideals of reform are the only way to lay the groundwork for revolution, because without them the revolution will inevitably be either crushed or twisted into something monstrous
2 Likes
I like how you word your comments, it sounds pretty entertaining.
1 Like
uh so anyway. whats your opinion on Scorpion King 2: Rise of A Warrior
1 Like