Cookie Thread Act 1: A Cookie in Time

What’s that? :sob:

i don’t know i just want to change the subject beause this is categorically Not The Place for political discussion, and I’m kinda sick of talking about politics, even if doing it to some degree is unavoidable for someone who loves history

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Oops, yeah. I’m sorry for driving the conversation there.

Though for another topic, I have heard that the British Empire dumped criminals on Australia and then these australians then made a country. Is it true?

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I am very sorry that I constantly do spelling mistakes, I don’t usually think things through :joy_cat:

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well i mean we did place our prisoners on Australia, true, but those prisoners didn’t make the country, what happened was is that our armies brutally crushed and exploited the people who were already living there and expanded the entire thing into a colony. acting like they just “made a country” is a bit of a misnomer

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the civillian population of early Australia was heavily influenced by the penal colonies, though, yes, but not exclusively comprised of them

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Illuminati was an intellectual group I think made in Bavaria? Do you happen to know anything about this famed super secret organization?

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the bavarian illuminati itself is and was completely insignificant to what we know as the illuminati, the conspiracy theory about them secretly controlling everything was started in reaction to the French revolution by attempting to cast the entire thing as an attempt to completely crush Christianity and nothing else

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see what i mean when i say it’s hard to avoid talking about politics? but seriously the actual bavarian illuminati was a relatively minor (though interesting!) organisation that was given significance by reactionaries attempting to use its’ name to cast any progressive development as bieng illegitimate

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in general i dislike conspiracy theories that allege that everything is actually under the control of a Secret Group, because if you dig deep enough into the supposed members and tenets of this group you’ll eventually realise it’s just antisemtiic bullshit and they’re trying to just avoid saying it’s Jewish folk, because fuck conspiracy theorists

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it’s just the animistic fallacy at it again

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Also when reading from my Romanian notebook, I notice that we have alot of weird original translation than keeping it as it is.

WW1 started because Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by Gavrilo Pricip, a member of the Black Hand. In Romanian this organization sometimes is misnamed as “Serpent’s Hand”.

The king that died during the french revolution was Louis XVI, but in Romanian he’s only known as Ludovic XVI, which is pretty weird.

There’s medieval kings named James, but in Romanian they’re translated as Iacov/Iacob instead.

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There’s also minor localizations like

Saint Helena island ----> Insula Sfantei Elena
Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg —> Sofia, Ducesă de Hohenberg
Margaret of Anjou ----> Margareta de Anjou

But those are more understandable than translating James as “Iacob”, they don’t even seem closely related.

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actually i know how that happened; James and Jacob are descended from the same name

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the original name in Biblical Hebrew was Jacob, but when hellenicised into Greek it becomes Iakóbos, which was eventually corrupted into James when translated into English

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Oh duh, I forgot that Romanian can simply takes names from other languages and then modify the letters.

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well it’s more that the Romanian translation of the original hebrew name Jacob is Iacob, whereas English can translate it as either James or Jacob

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There’s also Henry IV of France

And it’s translated as Henric in Romanian instead.

Charles IV of France? Nope, Carol al IV-lea al Franței

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What I’m surprised about that they didn’t gave Blanche of Burgundy a different name.