Cookie Thread Act 2: Silksong

That’s why I sucked in F3. I wasn’t eating again

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But having won that game and being recognised as capable meant that future games did not feel so high stakes. And Litten game being flipless also meant I felt less nervous about ruining things for my partners as I couldn’t flip wolf and lead to them and make them lose, and I had a lot of trust in Hazzy so I didn’t feel nervous avout leaving the game in his hands the same way I often do about wolf partners who I don’t know as well. So I didn’t get stress sick at all

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that reminds me
i’ve been wondering if it’s possible to do like. wolfy entitlement.

like. town can come in have towny entitlement because they’re town and should be read as such
but surely a mindset change can create a similar thing as wolf right? like, the game is about you. you’re a wolf. you drive the game. you make it fun. you deserve to win this game and it is in your wincon to kill anyone who disagrees.

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That was always another part of it. I never like to put things in other people’s hands. I always see myself as most competent and want to do all myself. Even when it is not true. And so I was convinced that my death meant an instant loss, even when that was strategically objectively false and I would play worse because of it.

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Yeah that is interesting. You are entitled to kill anyone almost you do not have to gamethrowing

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But I usually see it not in practice? Maybe people too scared to show it

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OH YOU MEAN THAT YEAH I REMEMBER THAT
how did people use it for evil

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yeah it’s definitely not a thing I’ve seen, and definitely isn’t the default mindset as wolf for most people
but it’s something I want to try myself

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In general I think big part of why I don’t so much stress as town is that I feel sense of perosnal activement not tied to the rest of the game. I am able to more easily rationalise the outcome as not entirely in my control and understand that I did my best. As wolf I always feel like every game is completelt winnable. Just survive to the end and win F3 bozo

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honestly thinking about the past few games I played (town losses)
although it certainly wasn’t entirely my fault, it’s also pretty realistic that me individually, should I have played correctly, could have won

I’m able to tell myself “I had good reads nobody listened” or “they genuinely weren’t findable town” or “I talked myself out of the right answer out of fear”. It’s only being misexecuted that triggers the same stress of self blame. As wolf, the people executing me are Correct, I can’t say “I played well and they were wrong to do that”, I don’t get mad at them, I admire them. And blame myself.

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And I always feel it is my fault anything rhat my teammates do: I have a chat with them, I can use my thread pull to improve their standing, I should be able to just advise them and carry them and win. As town it feels like there’s people I genuinely can’t get through to

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i see
personally I view every town as findable somehow, so it’s always my fault if I read them wrong

usually as town when I get misexed I blame the people on me (which is the other side of the coin of believing all town are findable)

regardless of alignment though I do view getting misexed (especially early) as kinda a personal failure

I tend to believe that but not in the game to as strong a degree… I don’t know if I’m winning or losing until hindsight. I get upset with myself for bad reads in hindsight, but not while the game is still ongoing. Being misexecuted stresses me out because I can tell it’s bad and wrong in the moment

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Yeah. I think I have similar mindset in practice regarding all town being findable, but it is easier to have ideas in that mind, you know? I usually deliberate and then decide town losses are my fault, I never even consider blaming others as wolf

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Being my fault is comforting in a way. I usually make effort in postgames to find something my fault. Because it means I can succeed in the future if I modify it. If something is genuinely out of my control it can happen again. It is scary

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yeah I don’t think I’d want to play nearly as much if I felt things were out of my control
though usually, at least in town games, the things I messed up on are just all my wrong reads which is uh. a bit hard to fix :joy_cat:

And because I am genuinely quite egotistical and confident in my self I usually view myself as having had the capability to win every game and having simply thrown it by making bad decisions or failing in some way. It is the reason I very rarely conclude people were not findable town if they were not straight up throwing, or that I couldn’t have gotten out of being misexecuted. “I know I can do it I just didn’t”

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interesting
I am not super confident in my town ability but I also know that I did throw it by failing or making a wrong judgement
and every time there are always things that I could have noticed/looked into that make that would’ve made me rethink

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like, if you look at the Sorc17er
iirc at some point in the game Porscha literally says Tutuu hasn’t always been right on her and is misremembering? that is meta that I absolutely could’ve gone and verified, especially when Porscha did a super wolfy defense of Baker

however i did not

and in Stratagem, even ignoring that I could’ve fixed my bad reads, in F5 i could literally have made a post saying something like “don’t hammer”, then tried to mech clear Arctic by getting Luka to vote me (I was considering something like this ngl)

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