Neutral was fine yeah
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The neutral was specifically designed to like. Not be able to be claimed and won with. Like it was pretty good at that job. And Yet
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vanilla
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As town Iâm fine with neutrals winning if I can guaratee my side winning as well
but thatâs only if our goals are both mutually beneficial and I donât need to do any fancy side steps that could make my faction lose
like if all the wolves were known
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At some point itâs your problem not mine
I was like âwe donât have to hand this player the win, you know, like it wasnât a good play to shoot the wolf giving up all leverage you have to negotiate with town, they didnât Earn This, they made a very bad choiceâ & the response was âwell weâre giving them the win now so seems like it was actually a good play :)@
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agreed
i like letting neutrals win if possible because like. theyâre often given an unrealistic wincon
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Yeah like Iâll help a neutral win if itâs perpendicular to my wincon but I am not throwing out 1.5 misexes in order to make somebody else win?
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Mafia played pretty well open wolfing so that when pushed they could break game integrity and cause villagers to self destruct so they can win
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Oh yeah and then the other VT target left the server because people were throwing and everyone went âwell itâs an empty slot so itâs gonna be modkilled anyway so thereâs no harm in voting it out :)â
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Like there was a neutral who needed to be healed every two nights
I was the neutral and won
It was stressful though
But I offered benefits such as âhey if you visit me you literally are healed as well which means you wonât die and thatâs pretty coolâ
and thatâs a neutral Iâm like âok sure you can liveâ
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ehhhhh
I do agree that the players definitely gamethrew
but iirc they only had one shot to kill the Mafia? and they just lost if they missed?
which definitely feels wrong; i feel like it wouldâve been better to, once youâve used your shot, like. be able to kill them in a different way, or something
idk tho
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peak indeed
note that this wincon is not only mostly out of the playerâs control, but requires the mafia to eat shit
We had outed wolves so it wasnât that bad⌠like they couldâve easily just demanded town vote out a VT target in exchange for them shooting wolf that night, and it wouldâve been beneficial for both parties
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itâs better to kill the wolf in the day and string them along tbf
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like how fol inquisitor has to vote out one of their targets OR kill them at night using their ability
maybe that was cod
mmmm
yeah upon thinking about it the neutral wincon there seems very difficult
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