Deceive Inc FM: Misery Empire Hydra - MAFIA WIN

[catch-22]

this is a strange thing to ask given you are voting them

why are you even voting them then

[Miku]

@MeLootz

I hope we don’t get yeeted before they get to play

[Wereduck]

@catch-22

this is a strange thing to ask given you are voting them

why are you even voting them then

i dont remember anything they did and i wanted to see how people would react

[catch-22]

have you two discussed anything in hydra chat

[catch-22]

guava’s posts from last night feel more like his normal self and gth i don’t think he was posting like a boxed in wolf but eh

[MeLootz]

Need For Speed:

@Garfooled

Compared to others that were critiquing their reads, yours felt hostile when I was reading back.

@Garfooled

Nah call me stupid if u want but Achro is town for me right now.

@Garfooled

Ok well that’s how I read it. It felt like u were upset that people were cleared. For imo good reasons on a glance.

@Garfooled

Kiiruma was excited to be town and make reads, so personally, I’m waiting on that cus things happened and I don’t think they’ve shared much thoughts on them?

@Garfooled

i want to keep an eye on kiiruma and wiz

achro why’d you drop the leafia wagon again?

and leafia why’d u 180 on them as well? because they town-read you?

@Garfooled

both jake and bean wagons be weird

bullying the inactives?

@Garfooled

i dare u

@Garfooled

what happened to “garfooled wouldnt dare pocket me”

@Garfooled

im gonna laugh if its just achro and litten powerwolfing but i doubt they’d be this blatant

and would they dare pocket each other like this?

@Garfooled

Leafia why’d u even town read Litten initially?

@Garfooled

U went Litten > Achro for town without explanation

@Garfooled

I’ve gained not much, esp from Icet and Leafia, their answers were kinda like… Not detailed and/or avoidant.

Leafia’s question about town reading you, I had hoped would be answered with “because Achro was pushing me” (that’s the impression I got), not just based on a gut read.

And the first question was more like an observation, I don’t know why you would quote it.

@Garfooled

Get Leafia out and then take a look at Kiiruma and Wiz
VOTE: Leafia

Hell’s Echoes (Top Poster btw):

@Garfooled

looked like svs to me. it all sounded silly and will be abandoned later

@Garfooled

Why would Archro start shit early on and put themselves on the spotlight? They’re either a role that benefits in being aggressive or this is SvS

@Garfooled

Could be using sheer confidence to look town, they could be doing that as town as well tbh

@Garfooled

which then i said its either that or theyre a role that benefits them being pushy. and the subject themselves agreed with my w/w theory

@Garfooled

I don’t like Kiimura’s push on Jarek. It was weird.

@Garfooled

I’d like more of an explanation on that

@Garfooled

Zorvo is pushing whoever is a threat to them. Which is just what they do. I can’t say I find it scummy, they’re just as defensive as last game.

Neon’s push itself on Jackie wasn’t right when they had more to consider from more active players but the response from the push they got as “oh I’m always an easy target” felt a bit scummy to me.

@Garfooled

Ok but u had Jarek as one of topscum. Which was unexpected considering how low their post count was.
Last game their d1 consisted of pushing a neutral passionately and d2 they outright claimed. Are they so different from last game?

And Zorvo was neut but was townsiding from the beginning. And claimed that it’s how they play themselves.

Anyway this isn’t a push. Just asking for a bit more context since ur focus is on a low poster.

Stratagem-27:

@Garfooled

Last time Leafia summoned someone…
They were the sussy imposter
VOTE: Leafia

@Garfooled

Hey last time Leafia accused someone of sheeping D1 they were also imposter

@Garfooled

I stated my reason and then voted, it’s not sheeping to me

@Garfooled

What’s so scummy about pointing out the things u did last game as scum?
U called me sheeping, what on earth about what I did was sheeping?

@Garfooled

But I pointed out reasons, maybe u don’t agree with the stated reasons but I’m assuming sheeping is just following a vote just because someone else did

@Garfooled

U could’ve ended it with, “that’s not alignment indicative for me” and then maybe sourced a game. But u decided to go on the offensive and call it scummy.

@Garfooled

It’s not to me.
I’ve only had one wolf game with u, and u happened to do 2 things that u did as wolf d1 within a couple of minutes in the game.
And ur also getting defensive instead of being informative.
Does anyone know if Leafia calls ppl out for sheeping even if they’re not as town?

@Garfooled

VOTE: Magnus

Nope, I don’t see what u see. This feels TMI + pocketing

@Garfooled

Marluna, strikes me odd that u went “this feels like the sort of person u are and because u claim it’s NAI, ur town”

@Garfooled

Do u usually do that?

“U seem like this sort of person”

@Garfooled

I haven’t seen u do that yet

@Garfooled

Also Litten somehow deciphered my thoughts better than I did in their post about Magnus.

I was worried about offending someone by calling their read nonsensical to me. (But hey, Magnus called my read level 1 so maybe I shouldn’t be)

I TR Atlas once bcus their posts made sense to me, Magnus’s don’t.

Zenon also found a disagreement about Magnus’s reads that I felt as well but didn’t bother mentioning.

It feels like Magnus is finding the smallest of reasons to find people towny. It’s like pocketing to me while also being able to dismantle their own TR reads late game.

@Garfooled

i agree actually

i do wish Leafia responded first

Feels like May is reaching for reads where there aren’t any to look town.

But according to Magnus May just makes up reads to garner reactions…?

[MeLootz]

Examples of aggressive town Garfooled

[MeLootz]

Now I’ll go actually get up and things and then I’ll play the game

[MeLootz]

Yes
I told them we’re dying and why
And at that point it was just May’s sus
The bird hydra sus
And idk, I think that was it

[catch-22]

you didn’t talk about any reads?

[catch-22]

cuz honestly that sounds like a pretty wolfy hydra chat lol

[MeLootz]

What reads would I have to talk about?
Luka debunked my read of them with posts of Discord

[MeLootz]

I am trying to be productive while also being busy so it comes off as this:

• uninformed reads
• and being pushed into GTH reads that make me look aggressive as Miku’s slot pointed out

[catch-22]

@MeLootz

I very much want my gut feeling of Miku/Hyunwoo to be correct

It could be, honestly, other than may and possibly luka I’d look probably look at these slots the most. especially because tutuu strongly believes luka is town, and I have also felt like the way they’ve been speaking about their hydra chat this openly is not something a wolf would do

[catch-22]

That’s fair enough, but a wolf hydra chat is more likely to consist of “we are being pushed for x y z” instead of having reads, but I suppose your other head hasn’t been present enough for this to be relevant

what do you think about helldualies

[MeLootz]

They are blatant
They seem to not mind picking fights
That might be a town thing
It’s that or blatant agenda pushing

[MeLootz]

I don’t know which one yet
I think I liked their early game
Picking you out for your change in playstyle
That’s something they did to me in a game and I was wolf

[MeLootz]

Then again you had said they are… inaccurate?
Do you think their push of you feels fabricated?

[Miku]

@MeLootz

Respectfully, my personal scum meta does involve forcing new players in the thread to make reads in order to cause chaos among townies; so I’d say GTH Oriceli scum for enforcing GTH reads (Despite it being a townie action in general) and catch-22 town for their townie solving.
:Sunflo

Hmmmyes

[catch-22]

@MeLootz

They are blatant
They seem to not mind picking fights

can you give examples of this? I kind of got the opposite impression, like they were going of going UTR / scared of picking fights, because of how quickly they dropped their scumread on me… or not even dropped it, but stopped… pushing it, i guess?

@MeLootz

I don’t know which one yet
I think I liked their early game
Picking you out for your change in playstyle
That’s something they did to me in a game and I was wolf

it wasn’t for a change in playstyle it was for what i think was nonsense relating to confidence which they’ve pushed me for before when they were mafia

@MeLootz

Do you think their push of you feels fabricated?

unsure because i’m biased