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[guavagudetama]

oh yeah

VOTE: Corrupted_Dreamer

[Leafia]

Why would knowing that info even matter to us?

[Kiiruma]

Say, for example, that you were checked by the rolecop.
It would mean that you are likely town.

It gives 1, or hopefully 2 living players who are likelier to be good?

[JakeTheWolfie]

wh

why wouldn’t this just clear those people

what bewitching have you done to them

[guavagudetama]

@Kiiruma

It would mean that you are likely town.

I doubt the rolecop would think to check their teammates just in case of this wish
Since they know when the wish was made you can’t clear the people after it but the people before it are as good as clear

[guavagudetama]

Unless you specifically are the rolecop in which case why would you be saying this in the first place lol

[Jaiden]

so uh
the game huh

[Kiiruma]

I think WIM totally died…

[Zone_Q11]

I have already said what I need to say, and voted who I need to vote. There is no need for further discussion from my end, when I know nobody will listen to me anyway.

[guavagudetama]

@Kiiruma

I think WIM totally died…

My wim was dead last night
I have wim today but I’m stuck in class
Luckily we’re having a work day So I’ll do
Something
I haven’t actually decided what I’m gonna do yet
Probably reevaluate you and CD, and then actually read beancat outside of interactions with you

[guavagudetama]

@Zone_Q11

I have already said what I need to say, and voted who I need to vote. There is no need for further discussion from my end, when I know nobody will listen to me anyway.

I highly doubt this is w!Zone
I’ll reeval Leafia if I have time but I can’t guarantee I’ll change my mind

[guavagudetama]

@Corrupted_Dreamer

ngl, can not be bothered to invest in this game, hazard is the best vote on the basis of being generally scummy and others voting eliza to save them.

@Corrupted_Dreamer

I’m concerned about ashlyn too but I think rn we have bigger priorities

This is a little funny but it’s not like I’ve never been wrong

@Corrupted_Dreamer

Jake is voting me because rather than accept that what I said about them was true they would rather be in denial and make nonsense conspiracy theories about someone telling me what to say.

What did he say about Jake again?

@Corrupted_Dreamer

Hazard, jake, and guava are pretty cringe and I still maintain my conviction that they should all be eliminated not just because they are scummy, but also on principle, do not like these people trying to twist my words

This?

@Corrupted_Dreamer

I don’t want you dead for twisting words, I want you dead for implying that the messages I have sent were first made by someone else, this level of absurd thinking is reaching too far into the crackpot, it’s either last ditch mafia omgus or terminal stupidity beyond comprehension, and like I said before, I don’t feel like finding out further down the line

Or the one where they backpeddled that accusation and called him stupid?

Struggling to find an accusation that actually has basis in anything Jake has said

@Corrupted_Dreamer

eliza is redundancy but I think it’s likely that if hazzard is mafia then so is guava, they are behaving in sync

This obviously clears me (joking)

@Corrupted_Dreamer

ngl, leafia I find you outright annoying, nothing I hate more than being called fake, let’s vote me today, when I fllip town, the town is to vote you the next day.

@Corrupted_Dreamer

when I flip town, elminate leafia, they are mafia or on an unparalleled level of terminal stupidity

Gestures to this
Cod simon/zone would have so much possibility if zone wasn’t obvtowning rn

@Corrupted_Dreamer

jake
hazard
guava
zone

let’s kill into one of these today

Wait Zone was in this post nvm

@Corrupted_Dreamer

Jake is voting me because rather than accept that what I said about them was true they would rather be in denial and make nonsense conspiracy theories about someone telling me what to say.

Anyway what did you mean when you said “what I said about them” because I think I missed the posts you’re referencing

[guavagudetama]

On to Kiiruma!

[beancat]

Wow I do not feel like playing this game

My current strongest scumread is on guava

And I want to articulate why

But

[beancat]

Also it’s once again @Corrupted_Dreamer has the wish or it was the NK

get in here @Corrupted_Dreamer

[guavagudetama]

@Kiiruma

And by something I’m gonna do what I’ve done recently which is to vote someone who doesn’t exist yet and hopefully they’ll do something I can read when they’re around.

VOTE: Ashlyn

What a good first game related post for this slot
That makes 2 people I’m suspicious of that have pushed Ashlyn LOL
Granted she literally hadn’t posted yet but it’s still not a great look
Especially when the other 0 poster at the time is someone I’m suspecting to be Kiiruma’s partner and the other person that pushed Ashlyn
Anyway

@guavagudetama

your game so far has felt like being interviewed by this woman

(The philomena cunk video)

@Kiiruma

This is lowkey the best response I’ve heard all game.
And I don’t care how flimsy this is but T!Gar probably doesn’t care as much as W!Gar does about being popular and not roasting people…

So this is T!Gar.

(This was meant to be my name Gar obviously isn’t in the game)
I love this read because
A. Kiiruma has 0 wolf meta on me
B. It’s not even accurate with my wolf meta from other social deduction games (it’s actually the opposite LOL)
And C. I don’t even see that as a roast I love Philomena Cunk

@Kiiruma

It was random. I’m tired. Gonna get some sleep.
It’s cool Ashlyn is here now and yeah Ashlyn doesn’t necessarily respond much to pressure.

It’s almost like more people could’ve voted for Ashlyn but they didn’t, so we out here now and my idea did nothing. If yall wanna vote me for now, yall can, I don’t exactly feel pressure from it.

GN

The defense of his Ashlyn vote is still crazy to me
“More people could have voted it” but why would they

@Kiiruma

VOTE: IcetFeelsPain

I wasn’t exactly a big fan of their entrance and I don’t think they’ve improved as I’ve seen their reads continue.

Ugh now I have to read Icet up to this point

Can’t believe I have to read in this text based game what is the world coming to (joking)

@IcetFeelsPain

Hi besties my favourite mafia game is Gnosia and I like Italians

OH THIS ENTRANCE
I don’t see a problem with Icet’s entrance here I thought it was funny and at the time that’s like what the entire thread was the first 200 posts are majorly not game related

@IcetFeelsPain

what if I’m an AC follower

Outted lost wolf

@IcetFeelsPain

VOTE: Kiiruma

Ohhhh, THAT’S why Kiiruma voted Icet, I get it

@IcetFeelsPain

So despite a lot of people calling Kiiruma sus no one has the bals to vote them

Kiiruma/Icet is a no
If Icet ends up being scum someone that sussed Kiiruma is probably bad

Okay back to Kiiruma

@Kiiruma

I think I’m gonna take a break from the thread at least for the day, yeah.
If yall decide to kill me, I won’t hold it against yall at all.
If yall decide not to, hopefully I’ll be slightly more on my game tomorrow.

I don’t know how to explain things but mentally I’m out of it.
Thanks yall for caring enough to just… respond in those small ways to me.

Hamilton: Take A Break

@Arctic

@Ashlyn

i didn’t say i thought you could be powerwolfing

i said i thought cd could be

you said this about me

@Ashlyn

arctic’s post #756 is very concerning and is feeding into my powerwolf paranoia

this is reminding me specifically of another game but i’m currently not at home and don’t feel like digging through the total site history while sweating like a pig in my car cause it’s 80° for some reason

@Ashlyn

can i have definitive stances from you on people, arctic?

i can make something up if you want, but honestly i’m not confident on anyone’s alignment
i’m confident on who we should/shouldn’t kill today though
the former being hazard/eliza/kiiruma and the latter being jaiden/bean/icet

@Kiiruma

I agree

VOTE: IcetFeelsPain

It may not look like it but these are replies to each other!
Arctic: don’t kill Jaiden/beancat/Icet
Kiiruma: votes Icet in response

The inch is resting

@Kiiruma

Chinese Fire Drill.

Crazy fire drill

@Kiiruma

10
9
8 - guava
7 - Hazard, Leafia, Zone_Q11
6 - Jaiden, beancat, the town one(s) in Arctic/Ashlyn
5.5 - Eliza (True Null)
5 - Arctic/Ashlyn, Jake
4 - Corrupted_Dreamer
3 - IcetFeelsPain
2
1

@Kiiruma

I can’t tell if yall are T/T or T/W.
I don’t think yall are W/W and I could see either thing happening otherwise.
I’m tempted to throw yall into the null pile, but your interactions with each other feel like it’s some sort of (x) v (x) and IDK what it is lol

This whole thing with Ashlyn and Arctic that happened

@Kiiruma

@guavagudetama

because you just know Hazard isn’t a wolf, of course

Look, could Hazard be a wolf? Yes.
But he’s one of my top townreads, so I’m not gonna act like I believe he could be.

This is a bad mindset regardless of alignment I think

@Kiiruma

VOTE: IcetFeelsPain

All this talk about CD, not enough talk about Icet.
Why is this wolf allowed to be able to continue?
Yes, I do scumread CD. But like, I still prefer this as I’m more confident on this

VOTE: Kiiruma

Why is this wolf allowed to be able to continue?

@Kiiruma

Uhhhh those who realise that the wagon could potentially be wrong by reeval’ing their main suspect among the 2 and then thinking “Huh? Where should I go instead?”

Pushing people to reeval really helped you here huh
I forgot how like, awful some of your earlier posts look

@Kiiruma

That others should realise that reevaling others is genuinely important.

Vineboom

@Kiiruma

Actually… now that I think about it, I think you planning chain executions is… really damn scummy because we don’t exactly have many executions left. We have 11, 9, 7 (Assuming mafia kills 1 each night.)

Do I even need to continue reading?
Because this still reads as scummy to me
Like sorry I think that one of two people is evil
But now I’m 101% confident you’re scum so I’m not even going through with that chain

@Kiiruma

And if mafia uses an extra kill, then we can lose even before that.
We might only have today and tomorrow’s execution.

Assuming mafia wishes for something like kill power.

My gut is telling me he knows what the scum is going to wish for but that’s stupid because he’s been theorising wishes for both teams in public chat I don’t think it means anything

@Kiiruma

Maybe? Like, I think he’s town.
But I think I can probably carry us 2 better.

He was willing to die for Hazard but also Hazard was obviously going to die before him so I don’t think that meant anything either

[guavagudetama]

@beancat

Wow I do not feel like playing this game

My current strongest scumread is on guava

And I want to articulate why

But

Valid

[Kiiruma]

Nice

TL;DR I’m sus for… RVS and a pressure vote. Pushing a bit on Ashlyn (RVS), my lil bit of sarcasm in response to Arctic’s post, voting someone I’m more confident on and saying others should look at them… Pointing out the big flaw in planned chained executions because I thought it was important to do so. Talking about viable wishes. And saying that “it doesn’t mean anything that I was willing to die for Hazard because Hazard was gonna die before me” which like… isn’t even fully true because I had enough people who suspected me.

Nice. I do see that there’s a few flaws in this entire wall but I’m not surprised.

[guavagudetama]

Reading beancat now

@beancat

explanation for before

@guavagudetama

everyone feels either townie (Arctic, Zone and Leafia) or null (you, Hazard, Jaiden, Kiiruma and Eliza)

@beancat

Just for this i’d add guava to the scum pile

This just feels very nonconfrontational

Oh of course, so I should just scumread someone to scumread someone
Excellent idea

@beancat

Uh
First people have lives and their schedules can rapidly change

But Kiiruma has said before when he has to go, and he was still IN THREAD after that post, so this doesn’t hold up

@beancat

But this is a very weird thing to be looking into, and “why don’t u just not say anything” is another weird thing to say
Like there’s a difference between being perfomative which i think would include trying to appear towny to some degree and just… existing

Why is that a weird thing to say?
And I think he was trying to look townie
It felt as though he was trying to act like he’s helping when that post was just “oh I have to play the game now I’m gonna vote this I guess”

@beancat

@guavagudetama

explanation for Corrupted: Kiiruma voted you over them when you both had 0 posts and I don’t really see a reason. coulda been random but I think that’s suspicious. could just be confirmation bias because I was already voting Corrupted. need to wait until they post to actually read them unfortunately

This is looking to hard at nothing
If anything I’d call this performative

Why
Do I not know what the word performative means?

@beancat

you have a very clear decision?

This is still so funny to me
Like I can only vote one person at a time

@beancat

Does my guava case actually have something or am i delirious from lack of sleep

You had a point with the Kiiruma/Icet thing because back then I don’t remember what my argument even was for that
Like I have points to say they’re unaligned now but idk what I was saying on day 1
The rest didn’t really make sense to me though

@beancat

I enjoy that my guava wagon has gained traction, probably for none of the reasons I actually think is correct

Anyone have any reads to suggest

I remember reading this and I responded something like “because at least I understood your reasoning”
But now I’m reading it back and I understand like some of it
Maybe that’s what I meant initially but

@beancat

@Hazardwaste

Anywho bed time for me in a bit so.

Town lean
Jaiden
Arctic
Ash

Zone flip flops between null and town but is currently in town

Null
Kiiruma
Jake
Leafia
IceT
Quava
Corrupted

Scum lean
Bean
Eliza

…yea this was hazard’s last post

Why the hell are yall pushing em

Hazard literally flipped town and I still think that post is scummy

@beancat

Hazardwaste (5): ElizaThePsycho, Zone_Q11, IcetFeelsPain, Corrupted_Dreamer, Leafia

All slots are scummy to a degree

minus CD

Vineboom

@beancat

Our votes today are

• hazard, for ppl that disagree with me
• guava, for ppl that agree with me
• eliza, for ppl that want eliza ig

CD’s not a valid vote, let ppl calm down

I really don’t like this post in the context of what I think the scum team is (CD/Kiiruma/beancat)

@beancat

@IcetFeelsPain

I’m pretty sure Guava scum slipped here

in what way

The fact that she didn’t just accept Icet saying “guava scumslipped” while scumreading me feels townie though

@beancat

@guavagudetama

what happened to ISOing Kiiruma?

good point

answer:

@beancat

good morning everyone

I sleep and forgor

CD’s top on my list to read rn unless u want my opinion on Kiiruma very fast
from what i had they were towny to me, but that’s only up to like halfway of D1

Did we ever get this Kiiruma ISO

@beancat

They seem busy but probably going to be helpful to have around one way or another

VOTE: Hazard

When did you start wanting to kill this?

I thought that

@beancat

Our votes today are

• hazard, for ppl that disagree with me

Like granted there’s a 700 post gap but I didn’t really see any reading of Hazard in that gap

Let’s compare the vcs of those two posts

1273 (about Hazard for people that disagree with her)
Hazardwaste (5): ElizaThePsycho, Zone_Q11, IcetFeelsPain, Corrupted_Dreamer, Ashlyn
ElizaThePsycho (3): Hazardwaste, JakeTheWolfie, Arctic
Corrupted_Dreamer (2): guavagudetama, Leafia
guavagudetama (1): beancat
IcetFeelsPain (1): Kiiruma

Not Voting (1): Jaiden

So she was… alone on my wagon. Okay.

Hazardwaste (4): Ashlyn, IcetFeelsPain, Corrupted_Dreamer, beancat
IcetFeelsPain (3): Kiiruma, Hazardwaste, Leafia
Corrupted_Dreamer (2): JakeTheWolfie, guavagudetama
Leafia (1): Zone_Q11

Not Voting (1): Jaiden

It’s the same people on the wagon, just with Eliza dead and Zone offvoting
So like, why?
There isn’t progression and it’s not because someone else is voting there
That vote post isn’t a reply to anyone either so it’s not like I can look at someone else’s reasoning in relation to this vote
Literally why did you vote Hazard here
Is it because you’re townreading CD? That’s like the only thing I can think of that I saw but something might have gone in one ear out the other that explains this

[Kiiruma]

I can’t believe how incredibly scummy all of this is! Man, it’s almost like when you break things down, you see how actually normal things really are