I do admit thats the early concept and decide I want to make it (kinda true) possible on this game
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Amelia really could have reached for GEP Gun instead of rampager
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Okay guys, I will share one game mechanic away from one of the classes here. This better be good question.
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yeah so
just cause you doing something for a long time doesnāt make it better
thatās why you should make it obvious that thereās gonna be stuff like that on day 1 so you increase the paranoia
geyde just died and it had barely any effect on the game
I do not wish to quash your madness, only increase it
i literally play blood on the clocktower
I have no problems with dumb bullshit
I merely wish to enhance your dumb bullshit so I can consume the earth
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Unironically I think the fact that nobody expected it I think made it a bit more of a dud than it could have been
If I really wanted to do something like Geydeās role then the wolf team should be incentivized to get town to distrust their own alignment, that would encourage Bullshit
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In fact the whole point of the marionette in clocktower is to get good players to distrust their own alignment, and possibly get pocketed by the wolf team if the wolf team convinces a good player they are the marionette
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This isā¦ literally untrue.
If I canāt explain a read, itās not the same as not having one.
Just means we donāt connect on the same level and honestly, Iām perfectly happy with that.
If only some people such as Seth can understand meā¦ then, at least some people can.
Iām not going to just not make reads because it makes you happier or some shit lol.
not what I said
what I said was to an outside observer was that there is no practical difference between making up a read, and having a read with an undefined explanation
fundamentally, an outside observer has no reason trust them except if they already agreed with it
again, I donāt think Seth ever displayed an understand of your reads, since that would conflict with you saying you could never explain your reads no? Someone canāt understand something if you canāt explain it. Seth often agreed with the conclusions but that isnāt the same as understanding or agreeing with a read entirely
again I have no idea why youāre being hostile
If I give a read that I want people to listen to, I find an explanation. If none of my reads have a concrete explanation then I find one.
If I donāt have an explanation for my read then thereās literally no reason why anyone should or would trust me.
you are forgetting ethos
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firstly nobody is without sin so you shouldnāt trust a read just because someone with a good rep made it since reputation is made up
and the reason people get good is because they learn to parse the jumbled stuff in thread and make quality reads, so even their gut reads tend to have some semblance of an explanation
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Again, maybe Iām unusual because I like to challenge myself and be curious, but to me having a read and then just being fine with the explanation of āidk I just have itā seems not very good to me. And Iād always try to fix it, I definitely wouldnāt treat it seriously until I did fix it.
Iām not arguing that you should trust someone who canāt explain their reads - Iām arguing that an outside observer would factor in the credibility of the person when wondering if their reads have merit, unless of course the observer wouldnāt know the person.
That said, the game isnāt really black and white - there are people who have really accurate gut reads but have trouble explaining them. Are people who canāt explain their reads, but usually right, bad players? It obviously means they arenāt the best player - but it means that they are seeing something that they donāt really know how to explain, which is something that they should try to look into why they have those reads if they want to improve.
That being said, mafia is a team game. You donāt have to base your decision off the reads of one player. You can look at their reads, and try to understand the logic. In the case of people who rely on gut, you can try to put yourself into their shoes in order to understand why that person feels that way. By doing this, you could possibly see something that you missed, or just get a town read on them idk this is too long
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yes
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This sounds like something I write on my CV
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That said, if you want people to listen to your reads, then you need to be able to explain them. People wouldnāt blindly sheep yoyr reads unless you have a proven track record of voting correctly
which isnāt rlly the case for most people here
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fair argument
this feels like a massive overstep in my opinion
while yes if someone is an authority then I am likely to trust them more, if they canāt give a reason for me to do something that isnāt more than a shrug then I wonāt do it.
And if you would then I guess youād have to be prepared to lose every single game when an experienced player rands wolf