Notes from after tutuu’s flip (I pre-wrote these before day start, not gonna edit them so don’t ask dumb questions like “why are you giving reads on dead players”):
FAM4: Thread 1 - Day 1 - #9735 by firinn
Ok so I didn’t see this in time to answer, but I didn’t want to risk voting myself anyway because I wasn’t sure, if the peek was legit, whether it would count me as “1 voter” or “2 votes” and since my double vote doesn’t seem to be publicly revealed, it would’ve been extremely easy to fuck up the wagon through negligence. That’s just a thing I did not want to have to deal with, regardless of whether I could receive a peek on myself or not. I mean, I see now that it did say “votes 6 different players” so it probably would’ve worked, but if I got sent my own alignment I think we’d never hear the end of it till I was dead, lol.
BTW I actually felt a visceral urge to kill Magnus for this:
FAM4: Thread 1 - Day 1 - #8411 by WindwardAway
Because every time they brought it up, they only tried to paint it like I must be mafia for whatever I say about it. I think it’s too consistent of a focus and too inconsistent of a reasoning to be real. Call it an OMGUS but something felt off.
Anyway…
Ashlyn, Artemis, katze, Millium, firinn town
Likely SPF is town, and I have some other related reads to this
I think Manny looks better from it? Not sure
I think people who jumped on Manny after he moved his vote from me to tutuu are more likely to be wolves tbh, including Kanave, Frost, idk the timing of the rest
Daeron looks good from both their pushes and their consistent vote on me for the supposed peek
jail still looks bad but I’m not sure he’d try so hard to save his teammate at eod (the vote I believe could come from a teammate but his posts seem a bit too sincere or something, idk)
Kinda changed my mind on Cape, he looks less towny than earlier but could be recency bias and I need to ISO him for fair judgement. I think his last-ditch Achro vote stinks if mafia didn’t know what the vote count was, but if they knew then Cape just kinda looks silly and not necessarily wolfy for this. But guessing they couldn’t see the votes since thread was lagging like hell.
Insomnia looks bad because he seemed opposed to the tutuu wagon but didn’t actually townread tutuu
Kiiruma looks really bad
I still think Achro might be wolfing but we got a wolf flip in tutuu so I’m not gonna bitch in the thread about it
I did say highly likely one was a wolf but maybe not both
Still not sure if they both could be but I feel like the wagon movement was turbulent enough that it does look better for Achro. Ari wrote a very weird analysis of Achro, though?? I don’t even have an opinion on it because it feels like it came out of left field. Anyway, if Achro is a wolf then Achro is a less valuable role than tutuu was (and tutuu was wolf kp so tbh he was likely one of their most useful roles)
And hinging (once again) on Achro’s alignment is Leafia. I had her alignment as dependent on him before, then decided she was just town for her vote pattern and contrarian logic on Brad, but the way she went at Achro makes me think if Achro is town then Leafia is a wolf who leaked TMI that Brad is town. Also I agree with catbae’s(?) take that if Leafia is a wolf, Creature is a wolf.
I have to review Creature’s posts again, I was also reading him off Brad (and tbh very lazily assumed Creature would be frozen early in the game as a wolf because I’ve seen him be frozen on D1 plenty of times, even though I’ve also seen him post as a wolf with enough words and little meaning to them).
I don’t think crazynuto is a wolf for nearly fucking up my wagon. I don’t think it’s alignment indicative at all except that if they’re a wolf, they aren’t teamed with whoever put the peek/modpost on me because that was genuine confusion in their reaction.
I don’t know what Jinrou and Kelsier are doing but I’m inclined to ignore them for now. I think they’re gonna get themselves ITA’d regardless of alignment and I kinda don’t feel like their “wind is a wolf wagon bomb” thing was real.
Oh and also, tutuu voting me immediately after the announcement about the peek and then moving his vote later is noted. Take it as you will but I’m thinking the peek is more likely to be legit and from town, if scum was willing to waste votes to water down my wagon early on (unless wolves got this as a byproduct of activating some other, hidden ability). Orrrr it’s just a fake wolf modpost and was meant to distract and possibly mislead people into voting me for the heck of it, and give wolves an excuse not to be useful. Idk, that doesn’t seem so well-planned since they’d need votes to save their own team, and if they moved their votes at eod they’d just look bad. So probably it’s a legit town peek or just a reaction test.
Whatever happened to Brakuren and his poem posts? I saw zero mention of him after we moved threads, just wondering if we shelved solving him for the day or if he did something that cleared himself?
Other reads: kinda think carbo might be town, I remember they had early heat on them but I think they’re OK from what I saw. I think catbae might be town but I am not at all confident enough to make that call since I feel like he was a bit too focused on SPF for ages and I actually think SPF is townier than not.
FAM4: Thread 1 - Day 1 - #3925 by tutuu
This would be a weird post to make about a partner so Apo is probably town from it, I thought she was towny anyway so I’m comfortable in giving a full townread to her now.
I don’t have a night action hehe.
But yeah, before you ask where I went or whom I visited, I didn’t go anywhere.
Also, is mafia actually all just in a guild called The AGENDA?? lmao
I’m sure I could’ve written more but it’s not like you guys are gonna read this anyway so have a summary of my scumreads. You don’t really need to look at it until I’m dead, anyway.
tl;dr - I would ITA: Kiiruma, jail, Kanave, Frostwolf, Cape, Magnus and then the others on my suspect list are dependent on other flips/reads. That’s in no particular order.
