FAM4: Thread 4 - Day 2

[Baudib1]

FTR I don’t townread Marluxion outside of reactions around the vote wagon.

[Jarek]

@Jarek

I cannot personaly understand why people want me dead over the many swathes of other players, the same way they cannot understand why I believe I’m town and why I believe other people should just know that

This is because unlike a regular game where I can iso the entire game and maybe see the logic and/or find a wolf myself, I’m never going to be able to od that with this many players. I just don’t have the time or mental capacity

[Stick]

@FAMHost

A shot was fired at JakeTheWolfie!

Nobody died!

wow!

[Jarek]

Yeah, not to mark them specifically though.

[Stick]

yea i might just lock jarek in as v nya and face the consequences later lol

[Marluna]

@Atlas my ability doesn’t roleblock the player I am targeting.

(it’s independent of their actions, so there is no place for them in action order.)

[Zugzwang]

@Jarek

I feel like i’m just unlucky and people have decided to kill me just because. That’s how it is. I was a little flippant about it a bit earlier because it’s like “yeah duh I’m town why can’t you see that”

@May

We cannot engage with you if you choose not to play the game and so we are genuinely required by our, like, win conditions and the operations of a mafia game to shoot you. You have put yourself in this adversarial position

And then may said this and I realised that people don’t just see that. I’m a bit of an idiot sometimes.

These things happen sometimes people just decide to kill you. I cannot personaly understand why people want me dead over the many swathes of other players, the same way they cannot understand why I believe I’m town and why I believe other people should just know that

what are the reasons people should believe you’re town? even if others might find them unconvincing

[Zone_Q11]

Windward, I trust you for being honest.

I also have people who I trust (not townread) for no particular reason other than gut feeling. That is enough for me to trust them, but not enough for me to convince others to townread them.

[Zone_Q11]

…okay, so assume that I won’t shoot May:
What are your thoughts on Marluxion?

[Atlas]

If I were to use my action tonight, would it be item-ified before or after where my action would be expected to run through?

[Zone_Q11]

Ah, okay. Yeah, this is a fine argument.
Alright, I won’t shoot May.

[Atlas]

Thank you.

[Jarek]

@Zugzwang

what are the reasons people should believe you’re town? even if others might find them unconvincing

Well, that’s hard to explain because if I could easily do that I’d already have pointed out reasons and laughed at people believing otherwise. The reality is there is no good reason, I just believe that people should know better despite that because…

I’d offer you a meta reason like “I’d never do this as a wolf!!” but like…come on.

[Zugzwang]

because like
personally while there are definitely certain posts I’d have not made as wolf
it makes sense that people don’t see that, since quite a lot is WIFOM and/or requires way too much knowledge of my meta

[Marluna]

The same time.

you use your action, and the same time your action becomes an item.

[Jarek]

And what you are seeing here is me realising how foolish I am, sooooo

[Atlas]

How odd.
What does “becoming an item” entail?

[Atlas]

There is still time to improve.

[Hazardwaste]

literally havent read or acknowledged anything they have said. i had 80 people to look at and i chose to look at the people i knew the most

[Jarek]

I don’t know does the realisation that I’ve been stupid this entire game make me any more or less townie to you that’s really what this boils down to