FAM4: Thread 7 - Day 4

There was no anticlaim kill for last night announced, is that correct?

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wazza is town ftr

i believe so nya

Zone’s Stuff (Important)

ITA Tracker
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Players D2 Shotlist D3 Shotlist
Achromatic (JakeTheWolfie) (MISS!) (Hippopablompoyeetus)
alexandra (katze)
Amelia
an_gorta_slanktai (Italy) (Gorta)
Apocryphal (Garfooled) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Hehehaha420blazing)
Ari (Italy) (Ranta)
Artemis (gori) (Ash)
Ash (benguinedparbecue) (carbonated)
ash4fun (tris) (Ranta)
Ashlyn (beancat) (pandora)
Atlas (Leafia) (Bionic)
Baudib1 (alexandra) (Hehehaha420blazing) (Refunded), (Ash)
beancat (alexandra) (Ash)
benguinedparbeque (Jinrou), (Cape90) (Daeron) (+1) (+2)
Bionic (JakeTheWolfie) (MISS!) (SilverKeith)
BradLand (Italy) (Kelsier)
Brakuren (Garfooled) (pandora)
bystander (Leafia)
Cape90 (Bionic)
carbonated (LittleLee) (Gorta)
CarrotyReaper (Leafia) (Brakuren)
ChaosNinjaGaming (Cape90) (Kelsier)
crazynuto (Ash)
Creature (Artemis) (Gorta) (MISS!)
Daeron
Dum (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Bionic) (Refunded), (Meuh)
dyachei (Leafia) (+1), (Italy) (+1) (+2) (Bionic), (Gorta) (MISS!) (+1) (MISS!), (Hehehaha420blazing), (Kelsier)
ElizaThePsycho (Italy) (+1) (Ash)
Ephemera (Ashlyn) (Gorta)
Frostwolf103 (Jarek) (pandora)
Garfooled
Gocj (tris)
gori (Bionic)
Gorta (benguinedparbecue)
Hallia (Leafia) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Bionic)
Hazardwaste (alexandra) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (pandora)
Hehehaha420blazing (Zugzwang)
Hippopablompoyeetus (benguinedparbacue)
Italy (Leafia)
jail (Italy)
JakeTheWolfie (Luxy) (+1)
Jane (Garfooled) (Hippopablompoyeetus)
Jarek (carbonated) (pandora)
Jinrou (nutella) (Manny)
Kanave (alexandra) (Gorta)
katze (Cape90)
Kelsier (alexandra) (+1) (+2) (Refunded)
Kiiruma
Kork
Leafia (Jinrou)
LittleLee (JakeTheWolfie) (MISS!)
Lucid_Daydream (benguinedparbecue) (Bionic) (Refunded), (Gorta)
Luxy
Magnus
Manny (tris) (benguinedparbecue) (MISS!)
Marluna (Magnus) (carbonated)
Marluxion (Magnus)
May (Cape90) (benguinedparbecue)
Memekingpizza (Jarek) (pandora)
Meuh (Italy) (carbonated)
Millium (Artemis) (Ash)
neil_the_eel (Italy) (Refunded), (Cape90) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Gorta)
nutella (Artemis) (Gorta)
pandora
Porscha (Cape90)
Ranta (Artemis) (carbonated)
Sadbi (Jinrou) (Forgotten), (LittleLee)
Selkie (JakeTheWolfie) (MISS!) (Hehehaha420blazing)
SilverKeith (benguinedparbecue)
SirDerpsAlot (Kiiruma)
Someone (alexandra) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (carbonated)
Stick (Garfooled)
tris (Jinrou)
Wazza (beancat) (Someone)
WindwardAway (Amelia) (Marluna)
Yawn (Cape90) (Hehehaha420blazing)
Zone_Q11 (Marluxion) (+1), (Achromatic), (LittleLee), (Ephemera), (Marluna) (Gorta), (Ash) (+1) (+2) (+3) (+4)
Zugzwang (Cape90) (Gorta)
??? (JakeTheWolfie) (No death)

ITA Tracker (Compressed Version)

Players D2 Shotlist D3 Shotlist
Achromatic (JakeTheWolfie) (MISS!) (Hippopablompoyeetus)
an_gorta_slanktai (Italy) (Gorta)
Apocryphal (Garfooled) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Hehehaha420blazing)
Ari (Italy) (Ranta)
Artemis (gori) (Ash)
Ash (benguinedparbecue) (carbonated)
ash4fun (tris) (Ranta)
Ashlyn (beancat) (pandora)
Atlas (Leafia) (Bionic)
Baudib1 (alexandra) (Hehehaha420blazing) (Refunded), (Ash)
beancat (alexandra) (Ash)
BradLand (Italy) (Kelsier)
bystander (Leafia)
carbonated (LittleLee) (Gorta)
CarrotyReaper (Leafia) (Brakuren)
ChaosNinjaGaming (Cape90) (Kelsier)
crazynuto (Ash)
Creature (Artemis) (Gorta) (MISS!)
Dum (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Bionic) (Refunded), (Meuh)
dyachei (Leafia) (+1), (Italy) (+1) (+2) (Bionic), (Gorta) (MISS!) (+1) (MISS!), (Hehehaha420blazing), (Kelsier)
ElizaThePsycho (Italy) (+1) (Ash)
Ephemera (Ashlyn) (Gorta)
Frostwolf103 (Jarek) (pandora)
gori (Bionic)
Hallia (Leafia) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Bionic)
Hazardwaste (alexandra) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (pandora)
Hehehaha420blazing (Zugzwang)
Jane (Garfooled) (Hippopablompoyeetus)
Jarek (carbonated) (pandora)
Jinrou (nutella) (Manny)
Kanave (alexandra) (Gorta)
Kork
Lucid_Daydream (benguinedparbecue) (Bionic) (Refunded), (Gorta)
Marluna (Magnus) (carbonated)
May (Cape90) (benguinedparbecue)
Memekingpizza (Jarek) (pandora)
Meuh (Italy) (carbonated)
Millium (Artemis) (Ash)
neil_the_eel (Italy) (Refunded), (Cape90) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (Gorta)
nutella (Artemis) (Gorta)
Ranta (Artemis) (carbonated)
Selkie (JakeTheWolfie) (MISS!) (Hehehaha420blazing)
SirDerpsAlot (Kiiruma)
Someone (alexandra) (benguinedparbecue) (Refunded), (carbonated)
Wazza (beancat) (Someone)
WindwardAway (Amelia) (Marluna)
Yawn (Cape90) (Hehehaha420blazing)
Zone_Q11 (Marluxion) (+1), (Achromatic), (LittleLee), (Ephemera), (Marluna) (Gorta), (Ash) (+1) (+2) (+3) (+4)
Zugzwang (Cape90) (Gorta)
??? (JakeTheWolfie) (No death)
D1 & D2 Final Vote Counts
POE of "players who have not done any ITA damage to a dead Mafia"
  • Artemis
  • ash4fun
  • ChaosNinjaGaming
  • crazynuto
  • Creature
  • Dum
  • Ephemera
  • Kork
  • Marluna
  • Millium
  • neil
  • nutella
  • Wazza
  • Windward
  • Zugzwang
Number Analysis (Zone's Crazy POE)

Number Analysis

Trust Level 3 (Townread)

  • Achromatic
  • Atlas
  • May
  • Windward

Trust Level 2 (Townlean)

  • Apocryphal
  • BradLand

Trust Level 1 (Slight Townlean)

  • slanktai
  • Baudib
  • Frostwolf
  • Hazard
  • Jane
  • neil
  • nutella
  • Wazza

Trust Level 0 (POE)
“See: Gut Feelings”


14/43 - Various levels of townreads (32.5…%)
29/43 - POE (67.4…%)

Somehow, the trend of me getting only ~1⁄3 of everyone as my townreads is still present.


Gut Feelings

Trust Level (0.5) - Gut Townread

  • ash4fun
  • ChaosNinjaGaming
  • Eliza
  • Ephemera
  • gori
  • Derps
  • Yawn

Trust Level 0 - Null

  • Ari
  • Artemis
  • Ashlyn
  • beancat
  • bystander
  • CarrotyReaper
  • Creature
  • Dum
  • Hallia
  • Marluna
  • Millium
  • Selkie
  • Zugzwang

Trust Level (-0.5) - Gut Scumread

  • carbonated

Trust Level (-1) - VERY LOW NUMBERS

  • crazynuto
  • dyachei
  • Jarek
  • Kanave
  • Kork
  • Lucid
  • Memekingpizza
  • Meuh
  • Someone

21/43 - Various levels of townreads (48.8…%)
12/43 - Null (27.9…%)
10/43 - Scumreads (23.2…%)

Oh, great. (Sarcasm)
1⁄3 → ½

Well. Considering I am taking 43 players to account (because I am excluding the mason and myself), I suppose this is the best that I can do for now. With 14 Mafia dead, I expect around 4 Mafia still alive. (Though some others say that there can be around 6 alive Mafia somehow…)


“Trust Level 0 (POE)” ∧ “No ITA Damage to Mafia”

  • Artemis (0)
  • ash4fun (0.5)
  • ChaosNinjaGaming (0.5)
  • crazynuto (-1)
  • Creature (0)
  • Dum (0)
  • Ephemera (0.5)
  • Kork (-1)
  • Marluna (0)
  • Millium (0)
  • Zugzwang (0)

“Trust Level 0 (POE)” ∧ “Did ITA Damage to Mafia”

  • Ari (D2 Italy)
  • Ashlyn (D3 pandora)
  • beancat (D2 alexandra)
  • bystander (D2 Leafia)
  • carbonated (D2 LittleLee)
  • CarrotyReaper (D2 Leafia)
  • dyachei (D2 Leafia, D2 Italy, D3 Bionic, D3 Hehehaha420blazing)
  • Eliza (D2 Italy)
  • gori (D3 Bionic)
  • Hallia (D2 Leafia, D3 Bionic)
  • Jarek (D3 pandora)
  • Kanave (D2 alexandra)
  • Lucid (D2 benguinedparbecue)
  • Memekingpizza (D3 pandora)
  • Meuh (D2 Italy)
  • Selkie (D3 Hehehaha420blazing)
  • Derps (D2 Kiiruma)
  • Someone (D2 alexandra)
  • Yawn (D3 Hehehaha420blazing)
Banned Players Chat

I got “Banned” and got access to Banned Players Chat; a PM on FoL where people were able to talk during day phase only.

I think I can see why Kork thought he was not able to / allowed to talk at Day 3.

The order goes like…

Gorta added N0(?),
Manny added N0(?),
Eliza added N1,
Leafia added N1,
Leafia died D2,
katze added N2,
Manny removed N2,
Eliza removed N2,
Kork added N2,
katze died D3,
Gorta died D3,
Kork removed N3,
Zone added N3.

Considering how Eliza interacted with Leafia, I believe it is safe to assume that Eliza is lock!town. (The only paranoia being: “What if their conversation was just an act to fool Gorta and Manny?” But that sounds too far-strecthed, and the latter two never talked there anyway.)

Conclusion

Based on gut, my scumreads are [carbonated, Jarek, Wazza]. (Primarily carbonated.)
Based on numbers and (lack of useful) shots, my scumreads are [crazynuto, Kork].

However, the thing with numbers is that I don’t know whether they can be trusted, seeing as the results stated that dyachei is very sus, even though they have shot four Mafia so far.

Additionally, while twelve of the currently deceased Mafia follow the trend of the numbers, Leafia and tutuu are still outliers. (Kiiruma was no longer an outlier once I updated the numbers.) Point is: There could be more outliers in the future, and these “deep wolves” are what I am very much afraid of.

Gibberish:

  • Numbers → 75, 50, 25. You cannot escape us unless you knew what we were doing beforehand. GOOD FRICKING LUCK escaping the numbers! You can never save yourself.
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Damn we killed their poisoner so now I’m just vanilla :pensive:

We dont even know if snti claim is a kill

If people shoot me that’s fine with me, but I have a bullet proof vest which I’m not afraid to claim

Wasn’t Sadbi hard wolfreading Meuh? Or did they change their mind?

I trust him, since he gave me cookie as promised. :thinking:

Unless we do?

  • nuto was low in Jane’s reads, and I read them over and didn’t like them
  • read over gori, and their inactivity + carefreeness pinged me villagery (not a meta read, to be clear)
  • considered Someone, but I’d like to know how their conditions work before possibly miskilling them.
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Anticlaim means maf gets to kill people who reveal too much right?

Yeah I need to see more from them because I don’t have a good reason to townread them yet

I like that. Town reward goes to zug

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FAM 4: Battle for the Cookie Thread Day 4 Votecount

Votes Wagon Voters
1 dyachei Creature
1 Dum Meuh
37 Not Voting Achromatic, an_gorta_slanktai, Apocryphal, Ari, ash4fun, Ashlyn, Baudib1, beancat, BradLand, bystander, carbonated, CarrotyReaper, ChaosNinjaGaming, Dum, dyachei, ElizaThePsycho, Ephemera, Zone_Q11, Frostwolf103, gori, Hallia, Hazardwaste, Jarek, Kanave, Kork, Lucid_Daydream, Marluna, May, Memekingpizza, Millium, neil_the_eel, Selkie, SirDerpsAlot, Someone, Wazza, Yawn, Zugzwang
Raw VC for the plugin

dyachei (1): Creature
Dum (1): Meuh

Not Voting (37): Achromatic, an_gorta_slanktai, Apocryphal, Ari, ash4fun, Ashlyn, Baudib1, beancat, BradLand, bystander, carbonated, CarrotyReaper, ChaosNinjaGaming, Dum, dyachei, ElizaThePsycho, Ephemera, Zone_Q11, Frostwolf103, gori, Hallia, Hazardwaste, Jarek, Kanave, Kork, Lucid_Daydream, Marluna, May, Memekingpizza, Millium, neil_the_eel, Selkie, SirDerpsAlot, Someone, Wazza, Yawn, Zugzwang

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n2 had anticlaim in the kills. there was a line about it.

so I assumed it is tbh.

(and I had also considered a few hero shots like nutella but I didn’t really want to risk that)

@dyachei you said you were gonna sheep my why did you swap over to ranta?

:face_with_raised_eyebrow:
The very pro-town mechanic of bulletproof vests

Yeah but it didnt specificy it was a kill