[FEEDBACK] More transparent moderation

me explaining why my client should be absolved from calling someone 57 slurs in a forum game because it was w/w theatre

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Dont make fun of me :sob::sob::sob:

That is the role of a moderator. There is not a definite “oh a player was toxic? They get banned for x amount of time” because every player and situation is different

I used to mod a garrys mod server and it was made explicitly clear to the mods that you can, and should, hane every single case differently. I know multiple mods who wouldve banned people who I let off with warning and vice versa. In a small community like this, the role of a moderator is different but still very similar. The moderators look at the reports that come in, see if they break the rules, and then take appropriate action. They VOLUNTEER their time to do that and do it for the good of the community.

You are falling into a logical fallacy with many “but they COULD claims”. But, the system being proposed by you both doesn’t fix the issue of favoritism and there is no evidence that this issue EXISTS in the first place. Stating whether action was or was not taken does not fix the issue, because if a moderator was knowingly giving favoritsm to a specific user they could just lie, or they could “take action” disproportionately to the actions of the user. There is also no evidence that favortism and rule bending has ever occured from the mods and the idea you are suggesting this as a solution to a non-exisistent problem that could exist doesnt really make sense as its not one that does exist. With the same logic as “things mods COULD do”, we would need to change the entire system the sitr works on, because what if a mod went rogue? What if Arete banned a certain user because they didnt like them? What if Chloe just got really mad one day and banned someone she was upset with in an FM game? We can come up with thousands more “what if” scenarios like the one you proposed and come up with the solutions to them, but there is no point because the moderators represent individuals of the community which are recognized to be reasonable, rational, and responsible. They may make a call you disagree with, interpret a rule differently (though to be fair they literally made the rule), or warn you or ban you even though you think you dont deserve it. That doesn’t mean there is favortism, that doesn’t mean they’re bending a rule, that means they have a different opinion as anyone would when dealing with a specific report because everyone has a different perspective and idea on how to moderate given the “everyone is unique” thing about humans.

The moderators here are excellent and they uphold the rules of community extremely well. I think a good example of this was when Marissa was banned. Marissa is a very beloved member of the community, but she still brokr the rules and recieved multiple warnings for it so the mods banned her. They didn’t play favorites because she was a well known person, they upheld the rules and tool action apropriately. They’re easily able to make correct calls when necessary and they do it all the time in my experience. Fearmongering about the mods being corrupt and also pushing completely unrealistic standards onto them (like being immune to judgement calls which is literally thr job of a mod and peer pressure?) is both entirely unwarranted and does nothing to support your argument of why there should be transparent moderation, since your argument stems from the idea that the moderation is always the same no matter the scenario (this is a terrible way to moderate btw, easy example is if two people break the same rule and one is apologetic and the other is apathetic, you SHOULD be more lenient towards the apologetic person if it is sincere) and that there COULD be favoritsm and rule bending in favor of the mods and their close circle of friends, but changing the transparency of mod actions doesn’t fix that supposed issue, and the issue itself hasn’t been shown to exist in any capcity.

TL:DR your wrong

god i need to play mafia again i love writing wallposts soooo much

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Anyway ive had my fun i think the current system is fine like ive said before gonna disappear from this thread now byeee

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I don’t mean to pile onto you Brakuren because youre already fighting 1v10

I just want to point out that should you be honest in this opinion, I hope that you can accept partial rejection to your proposed changes, because you are arguably attempting to create change via peer pressure, which you just argued mods shouldn’t let affect them

Otherwise if we reword this to instead allow mods to be influenced by “feedback” (more charitable way of saying pressure), then the original point doesn’t stand I’d argue

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if i join brakuren can i get piled on

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your honor he is a member of the informed minority he can reclaim those slurs

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the coven wants you to believe the word “WITCH” is a slur… but it is not…

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yeah this is bullshit

I have information, but I’m purposefully being vague to avoid drama

I have evidence it has occured

Only some of them

This has already been answered in thread

i think everyone knows

Sure. I don’t see how that’s relevant at all to what I said, though. If they aren’t susceptible to peer pressure, why are you insisting that making their decisions public would lead to less favouritism?

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I never said to make decisions public.

Informing the reporter is what I am suggesting

This sounds like something you would bring up to the admins rather than vaguely state in the thread.

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Sure, I can reword.

If they aren’t susceptible to peer pressure, why are you insisting that making the reporter informed of their decision would lead to less favouritism?

And in any event, where the reporter is informed and there is an “issue” they are likely to go public with this issue, and my previous statement would probably be applicable anyway…

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If you actually have compelling evidence that it has occured then you should be confident that if you came forward, people would believe the same

The only concern you should have is if your evidence isn’t compelling

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Transparency

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It would be more compelling if I knew what the results of reports were :)

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