it felt like what you were doing now, and it had no real purpose other than doing it to fight
you made six well thought out descriptions of backreads instead of sitting there and doing nothing, which i thought was towny
i think this is just
agreeance?
To me, it sounds like you were just repeating the same non-logical arguments, while doubling more and more down everytime you do so (see: your second major argument with me, and your arguments with jarek)
maybe it is
but it makes the argument sound like it makes very little sense, which from a purely logical prospective is towny
i know
im not solely pushing you for killing hail
your arguments against us not stopping you, while fundamentally ignoring the problem, did have some truths in them
im pointing out your arguments afterwards, like you said i was doing when we were talking about the nk
Fairs fair
I was at least somewhat at fault
I admit it
Could’ve at least tried to move it rather than trying to explain the alternatives and why a flashwagon on a null towny usually ends in a town flip, but didn’t have the energy or the alternative to. However, logically, killing town is a bad thing, which still makes me minorly suspicious, aswell as the main indicator of that being your arguments after the fact had happened
It was, inherently, a bad wagon
I was not wrong to point that out
this reads as me being wrong but you can’t explain why
which im sure you know how that sounds
aye
Qoute it
I feel this either comes from a pockety prospective or, from you explaining about, people just defending you using some logic behind it making you feel they’re extremely towny
Either way, I don’t share the read, and I think as a whole it’s suspicious
after all this time
lol was killed because everyone else was wrong or not towny enough to be killed. that is my point.
i believe i did earlier, during day one. both his defenses and his attacks felt towny to me, and they provide a good aura of ambiguity (and what i pointed out earlier: when newer scum tends to come under pressure of one of their attacks being flawed, they tend to just back off or just hard push it
jarek, instead, acknowledged these while keeping a hold and trying to understand their alignment instrad of simply push them)
for all of an hour, it feels disingenuous
would you mind providing quotes, given the time? i don’t remember them actually even pushing me for it
because im of the belief they are town
is it certain? no not really
but do I think neon’s tunneling three people who are probably town, and is going to write it off later if she’s scum
yeah probably
It was kinda just passive achnowledgement that lol said you were evil or something I think and then he died and I was like “hmm curious” I don’t even remember
do you really think anyone who is going to try and push neon isn’t going to be immediately tumbled or completely exhausted by the end
we have better things to do than bicker, but it’s getting to the point where i want to solve this
Hmmm, that’s true enough. I’ll releive some of the pressure on you a bit more to make it easier to defend yourself if you’re actually a villager. UNVOTE
And got shit on for it. There was a purpose in that I believed that it was scummy.
I could go back read again… but I really hate back reading lol
Probably.
Do you know how frustrating it is to not be able to explain what your thinking adequately?
I probably did do that. Still not in an attempt to mislead though. More in an attempt to get my point across the way I see it.
Killing town is bad. Yes. I hate when town dies. But I made a case and I believed in it. Lol believed in it he was town. Others did too they aren’t all scum. If the case was bad than show me where it was bad but there were reasons to push Hail.
I’m pissed I was wrong.
Show don’t tell. Why? What did Hail do to convince you that they were town?
Ugh…I’ll go dig it out of my ISO
I don’t see this logic. I just don’t.
Maybe…I’d need to see the posts themself from jarek to gauge.
it felt like a waste of time for something that doesn’t really matter
still
how am i supposed to counterargue against the same points that aren’t what you’re really thinking
i feel like you’re missing my point
was killing hail wrong: yes
was it minorly suspicious: yes
is that why im scumreading you: no, it’s for after the fact during the argument
what does hail give us upon a flip?
if we’re lucky, and thats a big if, we kill a wolf, who doesn’t have much ai at all whatsoever
i would prefer if you brought up a better target at that point
because when we talked about it, everyone else had only a few minor reasons behind why scum would stab em
i saw a bit earlier, but what they said wasn’t all too much in terms of shade