Forum Avalon - Mission 4

Its always capped at 1

u got me

I’m toblerone

It’s my policy to never accept a prop that I’m not in it’s simple really. I was always told playing this kind of game that you get more information by rejecting propositions and seeing what everyone has to say for an early prop than you do by instantly accepting the first one that’s proposed

No.
We get 2 blessings now.
One for the first fail (Holder of Lady of the Lake gets to check), One for the second fail (Person previously checked gets to check)

The group of three could reasonably all be good but it’s just as likely that an evil player accepted the prop and the mission with the intent of muddying the next attempts. I don’t know if it works the same way but presumably, if we want, we can do “N1 + 1” which is everyone on the first mission, plus one.

Not impossible for the 3 to be good, but I’d like to not be blinded by the fact that if I am in any way correct then we don’t just deathtunnel the gamer who got +1’d out of the game.

Generally also interesting to see who accepted said propositions despite knowing that they themselves aren’t included in it. From their perspective, statistically, they are increasing the chances of an evil player being in the propostion. If there is an evil player, they’re also putting it down to a 1/3 guess on which one is the evil one. If you’re in the prop, and it goes bad, at least you know it wasn’t you.

Idk generally I think the only evil that refuses that prop immediately is the lost wolf role, because their value in the group is lessened by the fact they aren’t known to the evil team

but there’s roles in here that aren’t in the version I played (and it wasn’t even avalon-flavoured) so really I’m just saying nonsense

oh my days wtf im actually illiterate

yea obe is in jarek chomp frost

we redo m1 + 1

It would have been better to see what several people proposed as teams. Evils are less likely to propose other evils because of the risk of double failure if they aren’t co-ordinated. Adding the obe into that, and it’s even worse - they don’t even know who the other evils are so they won’t be co-ordinated guaranteed.

yes but no its weirdge

theres a public fail order

also wouldnt it be better to put fellow evils on your team to minimize the chances of obe miscomm

According to it’s role card it both doesn’t know any evil teammates, and they don’t know it

to this

If it were in the first proposition it would be a huge risk for it to sabotage if any of the other 2 were evil

so evil would choose other evils so the chances of obe being in team is less likely

+ obe could honestly just claim they are obe before the mission. Obe failing 1 mission and spy team failing the other 2 is honestly a pretty good game plan

like i guess the counterargument would be if a merlin seen player chooses 2 other merlin seen players thats pretty sus (but mordred cant be seen and gawain is seen instead)

Idk my entire knowledge of this type of game is based off of Mindnight. This mode is kinda like a gamemode in that game but yeah. You could propose your evil teammates. Depends on if they know eachothers roles. If they don’t, the order still doesn’t fully work. Knowing who your teammates are doesn’t tell you what their roles are - You could me morgana and your teammate could be in with you and you could assume they’re just mordred and sabotage…and then you’re both outed.

yeah u would be right in mindnight cus theres no pub fail order (i STILL dont understand fail order in mindnight)

me neither game is fking crazy

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