Forum Avalon - Mission 4

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#161

is it?
am i dumb and not realising why

#162

“In some way important”

My friend… it’s… 2 cop checks.
Like what?

#163

If I make a proposition with 4 people in it, and none of them are me, I am giving the wolves 4 chances to be in that proposition, by including myself I am giving them 3 chances.

Additionally I also learn information on what happened simply by being in the prop. If it fails, I know it wasn’t me. If you’re not in it, you don’t have that knowledge

#164

2?

#165

A cop check doesn’t do as much as you’d hope, your best hope is hoping you get a greencheck, so you can have someone you can trust, but even then that’s only you. Nobody else has to believe you

#166

but then if you are choosing 4 other people that are not you. AND you are wolf it would be down to just 3 wolfs can be chosen.

this is true however as you stated before it can also be used to test already assembled parties of people generally trusted with a +1

#167

in short i agree that its kinda stupid now you typed it all out. dont know why it would be suspicous tho

#168

In any world it is best for you (as the proposer) to be the +1. If the prop was pure N1, then you know it’s pure now. If it wasn’t pure, you’ll be the only one who will know that. Not even the people in the N1 prop will know that because they might just believe it’s you

#169

On top of this if you get a greencheck, you can then trust the 2nd result that the player you trust has claimed to have seen.

#170

ok yeah thats fair

#171

this shit is fully confusing me

#172

Yeah but a wolf wouldn’t make a prop without them (or one of their teammates) in it. Likewise, a townie proposing 4 random people has a very high chance of randomly putting wolves in there just by chance

#173

Upon our first fail, the person holding the lady of the lake gets a cop check and the checked player gains the lady of the lake.
Upon our second fail, the new person holding the lady of the lake gets a cop check.

#174

The cop check is nice for security, I suppose, but it doesn’t resolve the primary issue that town loses if we don’t get 3 successful props. And there are 4 evils.

#175

OH. i thought it was just every succeed you get a blessing then a fail happens and they are all used.

#176

Is the cop check allignment or card?

#177

At best you’re hoping you can get 3 “clears” but by that point, we’re at node 4 and 5 which are 5-man propositions which would still require 2 unknowns to join in

It makes the end-game easier if we get there,I suppose. More solveable…

#178

I believe alignment.
So alignment cop, not full cop.
But still 2x alignment checks is super beneficial and you can bet your ass I’d have failed last mission to prevent an alignment check.

#179

I wouldn’t. No reason to. Pass the first mission, 50/50 chance on being trusted with the alignment check. Fail the next one, sabotage literally all of the alignment checkers if you got it and go deep.

efficient really

#180

Well that’s the difference.
You think that the social trust is a fine reason to pass it.

Personally I prefer taking 1/3 towards winning, suspicion amongst 3 people (Which isn’t that useful for PoE purposes) and -1 cop check.

But y’know, you do you.