I’ll probably look at Egg when I get back
Makes sense
And goes along with what I pointed out as well, that leetic is faulting me for having gone for an active slot (Leafia) that I thought was scummy instead of an inactive slot that I was convinced would just be a crap shoot.
Egg has a 14-post ISO, it’ll be quick
yeah, but it’s almost supper time
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Leetic has a lot of double standards
Hm
Maybe I’ll rewrite my readlist before EoD
I have a couple changes I want to make but I also want certain players to check in and do something before then
“Euthanization of affected personnel was authorized by site command on 17/11/[REDACTED] and said personnel was terminated.”
I would say thats a 10.
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So Leetic goes on a tangent the first few posts about fluffposting and how no real conversation has been had. I am unsure of the validity of this but I’ll go with Leetic trying to genuinely start some sort of direction for the thread. The issue I have with this is how Leetic jumps from read to read. At one point they assume that the mafia has already appeared with confidence and how only 5 slots haven’t posted yet. Then in the next post they go on after the inactive slots out of nowhere with them just saying they need more engagement.
They also voted Kiiruma for posting too much and not a lot of it was directly tied to solving the game early on, then voted on Gorta and I for being inactive.
Leetic here goes on to apologize for their actions in leading up to the vote, saying how their failure wasn’t changing votes but instead them not fighting hard enough for their own wagon to gain traction (which was mine). Despite this the next thing they do is shade others and reinstate multiple times what is going on in the game as well as do some mechanical reads. Looking at this it appears more like Leetic has been trying to be active in the thread by inquiring on other’s opinions on events and trying to connect it to this:
They view the reason why EoD1 vote failed is because Wind voted out a person who was contributing to the thread and not voting out someone (me) for being inactive.
Honestly at this point I believe Leetic’s point of view isn’t helping town in that they are narrowly focused on telling mafia from town via activity. Their reads jump from place to place and a lot of their takes are aggressive for the sake of being aggressive in my opinion. And in the end they try to tie it back to them just trying to eliminate off of activity. Something that they don’t have as much as others yet consider themselves to be widely town read. They just seem really confident in a position that, to me, contradicts their own statement on activity and earliest statements on mafia members being present in the thread.
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Whats a GTH scum
Gun To Head is GTH
Basically means ‘If you were forced to, what would you read (x player) as’
So GTH Scum = If I was forced to I’d read (x) as scum
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Also what are your most likely mafia reads? Despite posting quite a bit your presence in thread is a bit weird
Idk why it isn’t quoting your whole post but basically I agree
I said earlier that I was PoEing leetic rather than scumreading them, but I don’t like where the discussion about my Leafia vote was going (even if leetic claims it was pointless and that I’m the one who wanted to continue it) and I don’t like how focused they are on voting people for activity. Like I do think they’re trying to be or trying to look productive by the way they’ve been saying things in the thread and not fluffing, but they’re very focused on pressure voting and like, I don’t think voting you yesterday was a decent wagon at all because there was simply nothing to read you off.
And as I said earlier, during my discussion with leetic, even if an inactive flipped scum, what information does that give us? I don’t mean to say we should only vote people who give information upon flipping, but if it’s between players who may or may not be scum and one has at least done things to be read off, isn’t that already a bit more solid reason to vote them? I’d rather vote someone whose posts i think are scummy than someone I think barely exists.
Cause we could spend literally the entire game pressure voting on inactive slots and they’d probably all just fucking die and wolves would win
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So I don’t think that’s a legitimate long-term plan, or really a good plan at all
this is ironic bc I also just iso’d leetic and saw none of this, the fact they’re so focused on pushing slankers makes me think they’re town even more bc I think mafia would be self concious about these reads and leetic isnt
Thats not what I really thought he was saying, it seemed like they were more so saying that voting out leafia was a bad idea bc wind wanted the info from their flip, but the only way they gained info was if they flipped mafia, so voting leafia didn’t make sense there when you couldve voted someone who was being more actively scummy. I also think you’re shading their argument here, making it seem like it was entirely based around voting inactives when it wasnt
Along with that, Leetic’s read list wasn’t needed if they were scum, especially since it was on every player. The way he’s done the whole thing seemed like he was just trying his best to push discussion forward at a time when not much discussion was happening (some people viewed at the time that there was nothing to read and were therefore doing nothing) which it seemed like they wanted to counter so they made a readlist and a vote to get some discussion going. If you view them as scum here, the only really sus things I see from the read list is that all the reads are “GTH”, so therotically he could retract some of these reads later because he didn’t give them varying strengths, saying something like “oh I had them as GTH scum but they were nullscum at least at the time” allowing him to post the readlist and then change his reads later, along with being townread for having a readlist. From the reads on the readlist however, a lot of them I can see coming from a town perspective, and I think a mafia would focus more on townreading people over scumreading people, as he only had 5 people townread in the entire list. Furthermore, a lot of their GTH reads are based on slanking which I see as something a town would do over a mafia, since town would want these slankers to actually post while a mafia would be fine with letting those people slank for then. In fact he scum read every slanker except my slot and gorta, and even pinged you and dum because you both hadn’t done much
Anyway I have to go rq so while I have more thoughts on the matter I think leetic is probably town based on their posts so far
also wow did I really type that much I thought writing the article was gonna be hard I feel great this game I am so in the zone
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So far we’ve established a 3 (or 4 if we include Wind) basically ‘no touch’ zone.
Taking out 4 out of the equation, we’re left with Cloned, YBW, Egg, Shark, Leetic, you and Gorta.
I dislike Cloned from D1 but I know I’m going to be naturally biased because of the fact we were head to head.
The VooDooSh slot wasn’t great but it was also a low poster so I’m hoping to see better things from YBW to help sort the reads out there either direction.
Egg’s eh. Their ISO really doesn’t make me want to go ‘This person is town’ anywhere within it and I just want more from them.
Shark had an ok D1, probably one of the better of the 7 of you left in the sort of PoE. Want to see more but for now they’d be one I’d remove from my personal PoE.
Leetic is the one person I could see as ‘Maybe from D1 because they looked good, if there is a deepwolf it may be them’ this is mostly due to me clearing Wind for now. It’s not the strongest of reads but I think I’d bury this before Wind. And Wind before even considering the other duo (Eli/Dum) since I think that our action discussions have been relatively pure
You’re here now but were kinda dead D1 but you’ve been ok so far. I need to see what direction you take things.
Gorta is just here sometimes? Like, I don’t know how to talk about a tree.
Leetic/Egg are higher suspects, followed by VooDoo(YBW)/Cloned, then You/Gorta with Shark the lesser of the 7
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Why do i do this to myself
doing this in smaller chunks would just be much more enjoyable
Catchup
The portion that im saying is blaming others
submitted night actions will be helpful
please tell me this is a copypasta
their entire argument in that post is “do work = towny” which is… ungood.
insert posts here of a lot of people trolling
I enjoy this idea as well
wolves seemed to have zero concern about who died
which in turn I’d say looks bad on people that seem intent on pushing Eli today
speaking of which,
Leetic seems to want to kill Eli
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Well thank you for that
Why would you worry about having mech against you?
:Angy:
Thoughts:
Wind is still at the top of my suspicious list, but now for a new reason. Yesterday’s EoD was characterized by inaction, and no effort to move wagons probably meant scum liked where they were. It’s highly unlikely that scum were all inactive; as such, I am seeing at least one scum that went “oh yea with this little of activity I should be able to vote anyone lol.” That plus them being kinda guilty about targetting Wazza is highly cringe.
Leetic jumps up very high on my list for the Eli thing
Lastly looking at Dum - how is their action in any way towny? They claim to have used what was effectively a janitor kill. If that went through somehow, that could’ve killed the revolutionary or at least disabled them. How is that a towny action in any case?
Conclusion:
/vote Dum @Host_Account_3
people seem to be unwilling to vote Wind, but if they’re scum they’ll dig themselves into their grave
Dum’s action makes 0 sense though
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That was incredibly horribly timed.