[GAME THREAD 6/13] Risky Light Game: Featuring Rain - Day 4 - Mafia wonnered

[Leafia]

@Magnus

I can understand this confusion, If I had been Mafia, arranging a guaranteed D1 mislynch doesn’t help the Mafia when I would be heavily suspected and likely lynched the next day. It would be safer to remain in the shadows and subtly nod suspicion into an innocent player’s direction.

This reasoning kind of makes sense if you ask me so Pigeon and Magnus are probably unaligned.

[Squirrel2412]

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@Professor

@Squirrel2412

but whatever you two are probably gonna tunnel each other regardless of what I say

I have expressed a decent level of uncertainty on cloned’s alignment… I’m surprised this is the impression that you have.

It seemed to me that you were pushing him pretty hard. See below:

prof quotes

@Professor

I don’t mind the initial content, but the way he applauds everyone simply for calling him out, even when most of the accusations against him don’t concern the validity of his reasoning which is what he claimed to be looking for, doesn’t seem… real.

@Professor

@clonedcheese

Go sleep or smth

Take a break

This dismissal is textbook wolfy.

@Professor

I didn’t say that was your intention. I said that was what you were doing, and that it doesn’t match your intention. You intended to find out if people picked up on your made up reasoning, but then you end up townreading people just for saying that you “feel off”. This is what gives the impression that you are trying to pass of a wolfy post as “chill it was an RT!!!”, because you are trying to scrounge for results to make it appear fruitful.

@Professor

They are both hedgy posts. And in one you are calling the hedge villagery, and in the other you are calling it wolfy. I don’t care about the rest of the content for this specific point, because this is a contradiction regardless.

@Professor

I’m pretty confident Cheese isn’t reading my posts… or Aelin’s posts, for what it’s worth. They accused me of attributing motivations to them when I was merely pointing out their intention didn’t match with their actions. They then also accused me of defending Brad while quoting two of my posts defending Magnus, a different player.

@Professor

However, cheese making things up in order to validate tunnels he knows he must fake in order to imitate his town meta is… squarely within his wolfrange.

I’ll grant you that in more recent posts (also below) you’ve expressed some reservations about reading cloned, but you came off as pushing him pretty hard when I wrote that.

more prof quotes

@Professor

While at this point I think clonedcheese’s “RT” is looking more likely to be a wolf “it was actually an RT” moment, I’m not sure why he would feel a need to do this as a wolf. He wasn’t largely scumread for his posts, and even received townreads from some people. It’s possible he thought his made up post surrounding Pigeon’s meta would come back to haunt him, but otherwise it doesn’t really make sense.

@Professor

Cheese being insufferable is within both his ranges.

@Professor

This is why I am undecided on cheese’s “RT” because despite the intention not really aligning with his actions, I don’t understand why cheese would feel a need to do this as a wolf when he was townread as much as he was wolfread for his posting. An entire reversal, as you put it, may not be warranted to make as a wolf.

Which brings me to the next point:

@Professor

@Squirrel2412

prof scum?

This is interesting. The only comment on my alignment you have made is a townread of one of my thoughts. What led you to this conclusion?

You seem to be backing off of cloned (for the time being) in a way that doesn’t feel natural to me. You pushed him pretty hard, at least in my eyes, and then you’re suddenly reconsidering your read on him without much of a progression.

That said, this read is also dependent on cloned’s alignment, and your other posts have been ~decent, so you’re not my main priority rn.

@thepigeonnyc

@Squirrel2412

Why do you consider what magnus did to be scummy if you did it too?

1. I gave justification
2. Magnus seemed to know what the VC was and did it anyway; I hadn’t looked at the VC at the time (although I knew people were generally sussing Leafia, sorry)

Why didn’t you check the VC?

Also, Magnus voted when Leaf was at L-3, which is a lot more reasonable than L-2 imo

@Aelin

um
somewhat?
i dont really know how to explain it better or i would
but like he’s trying to be really loud about doing things i guess

interesting

I’ll reread his posts later with that in mind

@Aelin

why
all that’s happened so far from you on me is that you didnt know whether or not my commenting and lack of knowledge on leafia getting fucking dunked on lmao was ai and just kinda looking at my posts but commenting on what they were related to rather than the posts themselves

gut

which I normally don’t comment on because saying “this post feels good because gut” gets repetitive and annoying fast

@Aelin

cloned’s pretty scummy atm imo
still want to hear on squirrel

[confused squirrel noises]

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battery’s low and class is starting, catch yall later

[thepigeonnyc]

@Squirrel2412

Why didn’t you check the VC?

I am a human being and I specifically signed up to a light game

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

why does the postcap scare me this much aaaa

[Leafia]

I think I’m the only one who should be realistically scared of it honestly. I’d love to see more from you and Gorta too. What are your reads so far Eli? You too Gorta. @Gorta

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

[Host_Account_2]

Katze is a lazy host and even missed some votes smh

Voted	Voters	Votes
Professor	Aelin	1/7
Magnus	Trochilidae, Leafia, Thepigeonnyc	3/7
Leafia	Illwei	1/7
Thepigeonnyc	Professor, Frog	2/7
Bradland	Clonedcheese	1/7
Not Voting	Gorta, EliThePsycho, Bradland, Magnus, Squirrel2412	5

— Insanity

[Squirrel2412]

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Touché

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/unvote

@Host_Account_2

[Illwei]

i don’t want to read all those walls
i really dont

[clonedcheese]

Im back after a choir concert

Surprisingly a lot of posts

[Magnus]

@Illwei

i don’t want to read all those walls

If I said I was confirmed Townie, as proven by numerous wall posts, would you believe me?

[Illwei]

no

[Illwei]

you have 6 posts here, nothing you said will have confirmed you

[Magnus]

Maybe I revealed as Mayor.

[Illwei]

But you didnt so rip u

[Magnus]

I thought you didn’t want to read those wall posts?
How would you know?

[Trochilidae]

@thepigeonnyc

Hi!

Oh no I forgot to send this

i apologize for having missed you- are you still around? and if so, please answer these for me.
how, in your opinion, does your wolf game differ from your town game?
what are your three most confident reads and why?
what is your opinion on your voters?

Response to Magnus

@Magnus

I can understand your logic, but I’m forced to disagree with this here. Had I wished to blend in, without simply staying silent, I could’ve shared a few thoughts without casting a vote.

i’ll accept this line of thinking.

@Magnus

Have your thoughts changed now Cloned isn’t voting me? Just curious. I’m not majorly interested in justifying my votes unless it’s incredibly weird, worse than the Leafia vote.

a vote should always be justified unless it’s specifically not serious.

@Magnus

Have your thoughts changed now Cloned isn’t voting me? Just curious.

slightly. the act of cloned unvoting makes you the smallest bit more credible. however- i still have issues with you that i will elaborate on at the end. but ah, you’re aware the Leafia vote was “weird”? go on.

@Magnus

I’m heavily accused for voting Leafia just before Pigeon casts a vote on Leafia, sending her to L-2 in a majority vote. In other words, I’m suspected for aligning votes seemingly randomly with another player, as if I had been communicating with someone in a Mafia chat. That thought is in the back of everyone’s minds, or at least the people suspecting me.

i appreciate the explanation, this makes sense as well as outlines a concern that was, in fact, in the back of my head.

@Magnus

If I had been Mafia, arranging a guaranteed D1 mislynch doesn’t help the Mafia when I would be heavily suspected and likely lynched the next day

i question this- not everyone leading a vote on a townie is mafia. it obviously wouldn’t help your standing, but in mafia who you vote isn’t as telling as why. your immediate reaction to this hypothetical scenario is telling.

@Magnus

I didn’t know exactly how many votes were on Leafia at the time, since the VC was outdated. Two or three players had voted following the previous VC, I noticed those votes and forgot to add them onto the current votecount as I knew it.

this reasoning, though something i find sound and agree with, isn’t AI either way.

i appreciate being acknowledged, as well as the effort. though this post doesn’t earn you a townread from me.
my issues are:
the odd combination of your nonchalance and self-awareness
the almost deferential way you treat me
this-

@Magnus

I’m not majorly interested in justifying my votes unless it’s incredibly weird, worse than the Leafia vote.

as well as the line of reasoning i found odd earlier

for those who are too lazy to read the above: i am still scumreading Magnus.

@Frog

I don’t think any of that is alignment indicative, despite how proud you are of your girthy posts.

of course not, a style of play alone isn’t AI, it’s the minute differences in the way one goes about it. and yes, yes i am proud of my…girthy posts- call it ego, a superiority complex, (rubbing it in my predecessor’s face).

@Frog

The reason I remarked upon your sassiness was not to be cutesy, I’m commenting on a trait, specifically a playstyle trait. Your sassiness was specifically Towny. Why? Because your expression demonstrates a quality in tone of indignance, authority, and assertiveness

alright, i am mollified. though i have one question for you: powerwolfing is a term for a reason, what differentiates town authority from wolf authority?

something i particularly like about this response is that while Frog’s original comment about my sass was something i could attribute to a wolf fluffing their post, Frog wasn’t scrambling to make up a reason for it. they explained it in an easy to follow way i find indicative of a genuine read.

@Aelin

oh i forgot to respond to this
uhhhh
not especially, prof has seemed a bit more towny overall but that’s disregarding the person behind the alt
not really bothering with leafia d1 unless she comes up as a wagon again
brad’s been trending downwards somewhat
cloned’s pretty scummy atm imo
still want to hear on squirrel
gorta’s pop ins were bad to the point of me disregarding it usually being nai
idk where like third of the cast do be tho

i apologize for missing you as well. is your reasoning for leaving me off your list the same as mine was? i’ve been a semi-prominent poster, and i know you can’t simply forget about me.

[Aelin]

eh no i just had nothing new to add on you really

[Trochilidae]

point me to where you had something to begin with

[Aelin]

@Aelin

Forced.

@Aelin

good thought

@Aelin

i think anything relating to postcount is fallacious and im not going to bother with it

@Aelin

@Leafia

a slightly too friendly tone like he’s trying to make himself liked

NAI

overall we havent interacted much so its mostly been small commentary